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I NEED logical support...
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RE: I NEED logical support...
(June 5, 2015 at 12:53 pm)rsngfrce Wrote: So... I've just joined and this is my first post ever on an Atheist forum. I am an Atheist. The reason I am posting is because of an occurrence which has forced me to question my logic and I am looking for input from those who may possess a better understanding (to the degree that is possible) of these things than I do.

My grandmother was 97 years old. I had a very special bond with her, she was the relative that I inherited my intelligence from. She believed in god, but at her age, I cannot blame her for that.

She had been in poor psychical health for a long time and was in hospice for the SECOND time. Mentally, at age 97, she was 100%! She was strong proof that mental strength beats psychical strength any day. I was always convinced that she would live until she was ready to go.

Without any particular forewarning, I knew she was going to die yesterday. When she died yesterday, I knew it happened. I am serious, I am not trolling, this is not easy for me!

I struggle to understand how I could have LOGICALLY both known this was going to and did happen. I had some connection to her that was cut (or something) and I can't understand the existence of that in a logical world...  Huh 
These events happen.  Many are faked but a few are real.  My sister was having a baby.  My mom and I were sitting in our living room at home.  My mom grabbed her stomach and said "oh my she just had her baby".  If I didn't see it myself I would not have believed it.

At this point these events are not repeatable.  But entanglement suggest that it is very possible.  It's just that people take "possible" to mean they can control it.  It's kind of like "professionals" in sports, or any other field, they are actually freaks of nature and not normal.  Labron James is an example. A person with that mixture of talent happened one time in my life.  

So maybe some people are more connected than others. The data shows entanglement is real.  But it doesn't show that it can affect us on the level that my mom had.  Atheism is only a non belief in "a type of god".  It doesn't mean we ignore observations.  don't let the religous athiest tell you otherwise.

sorry man, thats the best science can do for now. we die not knowing.
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I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by SteelCurtain - June 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by FatAndFaithless - June 5, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by Mister Agenda - June 16, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: I NEED logical support... - by Lemonvariable72 - June 16, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by SteelCurtain - June 5, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by JesusHChrist - June 5, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by JesusHChrist - June 5, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by Thumpalumpacus - June 5, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by FatAndFaithless - June 5, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by Minimalist - June 5, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:10 pm
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RE: I NEED logical support... - by Minimalist - June 5, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:21 pm
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RE: I NEED logical support... - by rsngfrce - June 5, 2015 at 1:45 pm
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