(June 16, 2015 at 1:24 am)Neimenovic Wrote:(June 15, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Godschild Wrote: Luke did not record the time in Egypt, that in no way means it didn't happen. Many stories have been written about Pearl Harbor and my uncles ship was not mentioned, even though it became one of the most sought after ship by the Japanese to destroy. Just because his sip wasn't mentioned in most stories doesn't mean it wasn't there. mark and John do not record the childhood of Christ at all, so I guess you believe He must have not grown up or we have a new contradiction.
Quote:But the contradiction stands
There's no contradiction, I gave a reasonable explanation showing there's no contradiction and you counter with nothing other than, "the contradiction stands. I asked you earlier when I showed you were wrong about a contradiction to support your claim, the burden is your's, it's your claim. I see now that all you have is "nothing."
Quote:The woman was a Greek just as Mark said, Matthew only gave the location from where she came. There was a ------- that live in the U.S. and he came out of the U.S. into Canada, what nationality was he.
Quote:That's a bit of a stretch, don't you think? I wouldn't call an American in Canada a Canadian
That's my point entirely, the woman in Canaan was a Greek simply because she was a Greek in Canaan. No different from the Irishman that left the U.S. and went to Canada. He's neither Canadian nor American.
Quote:Jesus taught His disciples to pray in public, yes in front of other people, Jesus himself did so. Jesus taught people in public to pray for other even their enemies and He didn't tell them not to pray before others. In Matthew 6:5-15, Jesus was teaching them not to pray with vanity, even when they pray in private. Jesus wanted those who were serious about their relationship with God to pray not just in public but also in private where it is quite and one can concentrate on what they are doing. In this same set of verses Jesus taught the Lord's prayer which is a public prayer. Jesus never said we could not pray in public. The only thing Jesus condemns in the verses you quoted was those who pray with vanity.
GC
Quote:That's great, really. But we're talking about Jesus and Paul.
Let's get even more technical then:
Paul always said He was not speaking for or from himself, He said he was speaking from Christ. Besides what's this thing you're saying mean, "we're talking about Jesus and Paul, Paul's authority comes from Christ. You're not making much sense.
Quote:16) Matthew 5:1-2 Christ preached his first sermon on the mount. Luke 6:17 & 20 Christ preached his first sermon in the plain.
Christ did preach His sermon on the mount before he preached on the plain. You should study the scriptures before you make claims of contradiction. In chapter 4 of Matthew Jesus is gathering disciples and then goes to the mount to teach them, He had just brought these into the group of disciples.
In Luke chapter 6 Jesus picks His twelve apostles and then teaches them on the plain, so in Matthew's account the 12 apostles hadn't been chosen making the mount service first by reason of the standing of apostles and disciples. The twelve you see were the only apostles, all the rest of Jesus followers were disciples. Bet you didn't even pay attention that Jesus wasn't teaching to the multitude on the mount nor the plain, did you.
Quote:17) John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. Mark 1:14 John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee. John 1:43 & 3:22-24
Matthew chapter 4 and Mark chapter 1 are in agreement with each other when John was in prison even down to the point of gathering disciples to pick His twelve from. John 1:43-44 was after Matthew chapter 4, this is shown by the disciples of Phillip and Nathanael being chosen after Peter and Andrew. We know they were chosen later because of the previous verses 41 and 42 tell us this. Now with this said to show I'm not blind to what the Bible says, there is something you should know, the Book of John was not a chronological representation of Christ's entire life. So there is no contradiction only a book written for the spiritual aspect for Christ.
Quote:28) How many women came to the sepulcher? John 20:1 Only one woman went, Mary Magdalene. Matthew 28:1 Mary Magdalene and the "other Mary" (Jesus’ mother) went.
None of the accounts give the same number of women going to the tomb, why should they and why would that be important, the writers recorded this as they saw things to be important. This is a ploy atheist use to draw attention away from what was really important, the resurrection of Christ and that was what the writers were writing about, not women. You need to pay attention to the subject at hand and in this case it was the resurrection. I'm sure many women went to the tomb, some just didn't see the necessity of mentioning them all. None of the accounts say that "only one went."
Quote:24) When was Christ crucified? Mark 15:25 "And it was the third hour and they crucified him." John 19:14-15 "And it was the preparation of the Passover, and about the sixth hour; and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your king…Shall I crucify your king?"
John 19:14-15 records what Pilate said at 6 o'clock in the morning and his words, "Shall I crucify your King," was spoken before Christ was even sentenced to the cross. Mark 15:1-21 tells us what was happening in the morning hours and they tell us the same as John 19:14-15. All the gospels record the event the same way.
Quote:Are you really going to insist there is no contradiction? What sort of mental gymnastics will you employ to dismiss those incompatibilities?
The only mental gymnastics or should I say mentally ignoring the truth is being done by you, I read and study the Bible not just go to some wed site and choose what others have to say. When you bring what others say and claim it the truth and I discredit it they are not the only ones looking foolish. Besides it's you who need to prove your claims, which you haven't done once, I'll be waiting to see if you can. So far you've brought no evidence of contradiction. Please from now on bring one at a time, if you insist on more than one I will pick one and address it and ignore the others, I made this request earlier.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.