Biblical Prayer Contradictions

[Godscreated]

That's your choice, just as the Koran isn't my choice. However you do not see me spending an enormous amount of time trying to run it in the ground, I usually only speak against it when asked or the subject comes up and that is not often. I would rather spend my time studying what I know to be true and I know it's true through God's revelation to me. I do not run down your unbelief in my God, I do defend what I believe and know to be the truth when it is attacked.

GC

You don't run the koran into the ground, because you would be a hypocrite, knowing that there are bad things in the koran, as there are bad things in the bible.

Why would it make me a hypocrite and,  and because as you say I'm not a hypocrite in this matter isn't that a good thing. The Koran does have bad things in it, what all they are I do not know. The Bible records many bad things, why, because they happened, of many we have proof. Just because bad things are recorded in the Bible doesn't make it a bad book, nor does it make it a useless book. It does however make it a book worthy of study to see how man went wrong in the past and brought promised wrath from God because man would not listen.

What you 'know' to be true, isn't actually knowing, it's a belief a system.

Care to prove this claim, I'll be interest to see the proof you have against my knowing. In the NT the scriptures teach that we can know, it does this more than once, how many times, I am not sure, what I'm sure of is it does teach we can know, it's taught by Jesus and Paul.

Muslims claim to 'know' that the koran is true too, evidently, both of us would disagree with that. Probably, because we weren't raised in that faith, and one of us is in a different faith, so of course you're not going to believe it.

 Yes they do, and yes I disagree with them because God has revealed to many Christians the Bible is the only truth from Him to mankind. The Bible doesn't claim to be a history book, nor a book of science, it actually defies some of the science; science holds to be absolute truth. The Bible does claim to be a book about God and the relationship man can have with Him. We call this a spiritual book. It does make the claim to be a book of absolute truth inspired by God, written by man, with the guidance from the Holy Spirit. We call this a book to be taken seriously. The Bible claims to be a book of spiritual teaching, teachings that will better a mans life above what he believes he can accomplish on his own, I'm a living example of this. We call this a book to live by. I'm sure you have problems with what you just read, that I wrote, that's your choice and it's my choice to love what the Bible teaches me for my relationship with Christ. 

There have been thousands and thousands of religions on this earth, because... they are made up by human beings!

On this we agree, actually only one religion is true out of the thousands. It's established by God for man and taught through the OT and NT. The Christian faith was the purpose of both books, they both testify to this from Genesis to Revelations.

God's will, wouldn't have tons of religions before the 'true one', and then have this so-called true religion, established 2,000 years ago, and then have more religions that follow christianity.

You're right, God want have any religion before Christianity, this is made quite clear in the OT over and over. Many unbelievers have a problem with the OT being as great a part of Christianity as the NT, but I tell you they are on equal ground. Until the books of the Gospel and the letters of Paul, Jesus brother James and some of the other apostles, the OT was what was used to teach Christianity to the people, there was no NT. As for other religions like Islam and many new age religions popping up after Christianity, that's what people want and God want deny them what they want, He will deny them entrance into the eternal heaven.

So many of these religions were made up in a time of great ignorance; people were exceedingly superstitious, even more so than today. They were willing to make up and believe anything, they barely knew anything about science, and that is apparent, because the Adam and Eve story contradicts evolution.

All those other religions were made up because of superstition, you nor any one else stated this before the Bible did, the OT and NT are full of such recorded statements. You are giving some very old facts that all Christians know. The world is full of superstitious people, even atheist on some level are superstitious about some things. Example the wearing of rally hats in hope of changing the out come of a sporting event, even we Christians fall into this silly action. They probably want admit it but I would wager many atheist  will go around a ladder instead of just walking under it, that funny feeling jumps up in the gut and around they go. All the other religions outside of the Bible based two, are superstitious. So, yeah there are as many if not more superstitious people today than in ages past, maybe not to the same degree because science has put to rest many of the superstitions, but even in spite of it people still walk around a ladder because they are in some way afraid of bad luck. I'm not saying it's the smartest thing to walk under a ladder, but I'm not and haven't changed my path because of some silly superstition.
As for evolution, and this is the last I'll discuss it on this thread, there is no proof, none. What's dead and gone can't be used, only speculated upon. No one alive now or the recent past was alive to testify to anything changing from one thing into a different thing. Taking and using the small changes in different species, such as color, beak size, body size and any other small change has never been proven to be evolution, it's nothing more than an animal adapting to it's environment. No proof of added DNA in the natural world has been shown and especially to the extent of one animal becoming a different one. Even added DNA in the lab, which by the way is controlled by a higher intelligence (man), has only change what a, for example, bacterium will consume, it is still a bacterium. 

Humans didn't pop into existence a few thousand years ago, there's extensive evidence that we've evolved over time. If they knew this, they'd probably not write it down. However, they didn't know this, because this is a relatively recent discovery, compared to how long this species has been on earth.

 
Really, they didn't! There is no evolutionary evidence saying that man came from anything other than God. There are plenty of books written that make that claim but, not one has proof that this is true. Like I said before no one today was around to confirm the so called evidence you say science has about man's origin. On the other hand, the God that created man was there and He saw to it that the event was recorded, not as a scientific explanation because even today we could not understand how He accomplished this. Heck we can't even imagine it with all the knowledge we have today, so if we can't even make an intelligent guess, how is it that anyone could expect us to understand God's explanation and it would have been even more difficult for an ancient people who had very little science. So there wasn't a need to explain something no one can understand.  Evolutionary science claims it took millions to billions of years to form coal, have you look at the new things coming about this, there is new thinking from extensive study that coal can form in only a few hundred years, there is growing amounts of data that shows there was enough animal and vegetation from a totally flooded world to provide for the amount of coal we have.

And, spending your time studying on what you 'know' is true, isn't smart. It's good to actually study other religions, why they believe them, and how these other religions plagiarized material from other religions. It's also good to study science, and take an interest in factual information. That's the problem with people that are religious, they're close-minded, because they 'know' this book to be true, and ignore everything else. They can't look at their religion objectively, they only know how to defend it.

This is a very old and tiring statement by unbelievers, yes there are some Christians who lead a blind life and it's probably because they are ill educated or believe whatever they are told and why do they do that, because they do not study the Bible, they rely on a preach to teach them. The God who inspired the Bible said not to rely on man alone but, to lean on Him and the scriptures we have been given, so it's very important Christians study the Bible an ask God for answers, but for some I guess it's easier just to follow a man and hope he's right. The Bible teaches us this is wrong on many accounts. This is the very reason we have Christians spouting out false things about the scriptures and God, I find it very irritating and damaging to what Christianity was always meant to be. No Christian has all the right answers and if one ever claims to do not believe them, we're just men, not God who's understanding surpasses all of mans knowledge on every level.
What's the use in studying other religions, they are all based on superstition, you admitted to this earlier, they are useless in the greater scheme of God's plan for mankind, they are there only to misdirect people, I want go into this bit now it can be a very long subject, so long we would have to start at the book of Genesis and follow through till today.
Now for science I have good friends who believe in the literal 6 day creation, some are very highly regarded in their fields, such as nuclear engineers, college professors and learned in many sciences. Some of them command huge salaries because of their knowledge and some travel to many places to teach. I've had the opportunity to study with them some and to learn from them. They can discuss things that go way over my head, but for the sake of teaching they will bring it down to the layman's level. Also, I love science and the many things that have come from it for the good of mankind, yet I see moneys spent in the name of science that only effect the few and will never effect more than those few, they could have been much more effectively spent on sciences that benefited millions and possibly billions of people. Millions have been saved because of good science, yet millions have died because of science that will only benefit the few, what ashame, what a waste of time, knowledge and human life, all because some gifted men were selfish enough to think of their own selfish needs.
Last thing tonight and maybe the weekend, only the objective can seriously defend Christianity, it takes great devotion and study of the Bible in a growing relationship with God to do so. Christians will never glean everything from the Bible, it is a life long endeavor to grow in a relationship with God through learning who He is and develop a strong faith that He will do all He says He will. We can come to know many things about God and what He has done for mankind, but faith plays a very important roll in Christians lives, it will and does lead to more belief and knowing of and about God. Becoming a Christian is a simple thing of faith, to live a successful life in a growing relationship with Christ takes one a life time of true commitment. Hope you didn't get bored and will at least consider some of what was stated here.

GC