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Biblical Prayer Contradictions
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions
(June 19, 2015 at 3:42 am)TubbyTubby Wrote:
(June 19, 2015 at 2:40 am)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: You would, if you were born in Afghanistan, but, of course, you were born into the correct faith. Lucky you.
I've made that suggestion to christians many times but they usually insist that they would have found 'the truth' regardless of birthplace and then cite instances of christians in majority muslim countries. Let's see what GCs response is.

Yes very fortunate to be born in the U.S., but you know that doesn't necessarily guarantee a person will come to Christ. I grew up in a Christian home, but I was older and away from home when I finial became a Christian. I was never pushed into faith by my parents or anyone else, I found it through testimony of others and study of scriptures. Those who insist they could have been born in a Muslim country and found Christ anyway are predestinationist (Calvin mostly). There are many who leave the Islamic faith and come to Christ through saving grace within Muslim countries. Those who actually study the Koran and, I do not mean read it everyday or memorize it, I mean study it will find that it doesn't contain absolute truth of or about God, so what they do with this discovery is up to them, some convert to Christianity at risk of life, others probably do not investigate the Bible and find that their life as an Islamist is actually against God and they stay put. Mostly out of fear of losing this life I would imagine, because they didn't discover what the Bible teaches, through Christ giving up this life means to gain eternal life and I'm not referring to only the physical life either. A life change occurs when giving up ones life to Christ and will be most apparent and that could very well cost them their physical life because of where they live.

Now as for me I do not deal with what ifs, I was born here and as I said I'm very fortunate, outside of this there is nothing to be gained by dealing with the what if I was born some other place.  That's for insecure people to do, for me I'm secure in the knowledge I was born in a great country and totally blessed because of it and, I should take full advantage of my good fortune and help those here that are in need of what God has bestowed upon my life. I wasn't called into the foreign mission field, I was hoping to at some level, but God made it very apparent that wasn't His plan for my life and yes I was disappointed because I thought that would be best for me. Well come to find out the best for me was in this country, where I was needed by those God put into my life, took me awhile to see it, God did make this very apparent also.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Salacious B. Crumb - May 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by downbeatplumb - May 11, 2015 at 12:38 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - May 11, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - May 11, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - May 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - May 11, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by zebo-the-fat - May 11, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Pyrrho - May 11, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - May 21, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Chad32 - May 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - May 11, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 21, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 22, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 26, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 27, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 28, 2015 at 8:52 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Ravenshire - June 13, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Drich - May 28, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - May 28, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - May 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 12, 2015 at 11:56 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 12, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 13, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 13, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - June 13, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 14, 2015 at 4:34 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Cato - June 13, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 13, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Ravenshire - June 13, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by CapnAwesome - June 13, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 14, 2015 at 4:45 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Ravenshire - June 14, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 14, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by vorlon13 - June 14, 2015 at 9:38 am
Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by KUSA - June 14, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 14, 2015 at 9:20 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 15, 2015 at 1:31 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 15, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 6:19 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 16, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 17, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Crossless1 - June 17, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 12:34 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 18, 2015 at 1:51 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 18, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 18, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 19, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by abaris - June 15, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Esquilax - June 15, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by abaris - June 15, 2015 at 6:34 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 15, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 15, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 15, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 16, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Pyrrho - June 16, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 16, 2015 at 1:21 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 16, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 17, 2015 at 1:43 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Ravenshire - June 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 17, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Crossless1 - June 18, 2015 at 12:39 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by The Grand Nudger - June 18, 2015 at 12:27 pm
Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by KUSA - June 18, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 18, 2015 at 4:50 pm
Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by KUSA - June 18, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 19, 2015 at 5:17 pm
Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by KUSA - June 18, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 19, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 20, 2015 at 12:21 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by TubbyTubby - June 19, 2015 at 3:42 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Pyrrho - June 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 20, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 27, 2015 at 1:53 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 20, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 22, 2015 at 2:16 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Pyrrho - June 22, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 22, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 20, 2015 at 4:07 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 20, 2015 at 5:51 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 22, 2015 at 2:22 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Anomalocaris - June 22, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 27, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Ravenshire - June 27, 2015 at 2:29 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by bennyboy - June 28, 2015 at 6:05 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 29, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 30, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 30, 2015 at 3:55 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 30, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 30, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Cato - June 30, 2015 at 3:24 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by alfredomegar - July 4, 2015 at 4:03 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 27, 2015 at 2:09 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Longhorn - June 28, 2015 at 6:11 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 29, 2015 at 4:02 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by TubbyTubby - June 29, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 30, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 30, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Minimalist - June 30, 2015 at 2:27 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by robvalue - June 30, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Godschild - June 30, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 30, 2015 at 4:30 pm
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by alfredomegar - June 30, 2015 at 4:12 am
RE: Biblical Prayer Contradictions - by TubbyTubby - June 30, 2015 at 3:15 pm

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