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Does human life have INHERENT value?
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value?
(June 22, 2015 at 1:19 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Meaning it is not part of the Catholic faith to believe that burning a heretic is moral, even if several centuries ago these Catholics acted horribly.

Two very catholic persons are at the root of the witch trials. The Dominican Inquisitor Heinrich Kramer, who wrote the malleus maleficarum, the handbook for future generations of inquisitors. And a pope, Innocent VIII, who, inspired by Kramer, released the bull Summis Desiderantes, which laid the catholic foundations for persecuting witches. You can argue, they acted against Catholic doctrine, but that's a rather hard undertaking, given that an actual pope was involved

Now Kramer, by all accounts, was a raving madman. And to be fair, even local bishops didn't want him in their sphere of influence. He got thrown out of Tirol when he started to chase witches there. But his message stuck and it got it's doctrinal backing with the bull. It's true, that the church didn't do the burning, but that's no even scratching the surface of the reality. There's one of the most brazen pieces of hypocrisy involved. First, the church doesn't shed blood. That's the doctrine. But the inquisitors didn't have any problem handing people they believed to be witches, over to the secular authorities, who weren't that shy about bloodshed. Second, it's also true that the church didn't have the legal authority to hold trials and to condemn people, but in many cases they provided the so called evidence to do so.
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Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Chad32 - June 21, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Chad32 - June 21, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Minimalist - June 21, 2015 at 4:57 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:02 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Jenny A - June 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by paulpablo - June 21, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by ignoramus - June 21, 2015 at 5:43 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by Catholic_Lady - June 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 21, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: Does human life have value? - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Pyrrho - June 21, 2015 at 6:11 pm
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Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 10:24 pm
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Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 9:52 pm
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Mr.wizard - June 21, 2015 at 10:32 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by JuliaL - June 21, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Does human life have INHERENT value? - by KUSA - June 21, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by ignoramus - June 21, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by Bob Kelso - June 21, 2015 at 11:16 pm
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RE: Does human life have INHERENT value? - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2015 at 10:46 am
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