(June 23, 2015 at 9:41 am)Tonus Wrote: Science simply is a way to try to understand how things work. Science does not prove or disprove god at any point, because that is not its aim. If scientific research into a particular phenomena were to turn up god as the answer, then that is the answer. They may continue to research that phenomena because that's how we further our knowledge and understanding. But there is no reason that science could not show god as the answer to any particular question. The fact that it has not done so (in spite of so many scientists being believers throughout the centuries) is very telling in itself, but it is not a failing of science. Nor is it due to science trying to disprove god.lol, maybe in some idealic setting, but just look at how your peers are defending the use of science to disprove God, or the distain they have when I attribute a scientific understanding to how God operates..
Again, science has become an excuse as to why God can not exist, despite what 'purist' think science should be.
The search for the 'God partical' (with the hydron super collider) is a good example of 'science being used to disprove God.
Quote:That seems like a question for a theist to contemplate, not a scientist. Once we place god outside of the natural world, any attributes can be assigned to him. He can be outside of space and time. He can be powerful enough to create a massive and expansive universe and write its laws while not being subject to them. He can violate those laws at will with only the specific consequences he desires. And if we are stumped by what seems to be an illogical conclusion, we simply admit that his ways are a mystery to us.so?
Quote:What can we do with such a being? There literally are no rules that we can apply to it, so that we can determine that it should do one thing or another, or that anything we discover is or isn't proof of his existence. Science can only continue to learn about the things we can actually study. And if god never shows up during that journey, we must reach a conclusion. Some of us decide that it means he isn't there. Some of us decide that he's there, but can't be seen via conventional means because of what I described in the previous paragraph. Which of those seems more reasonable?You seem to be oblivious to the fact that one does not have to be in a specialized field of study in order to have full access to God. God has given us access to Him if we simply A/S/K for Him, yet we take His formula and apply it to all sorts of other disciplines and endeavors instead.