RE: Do you wish God was real?
June 25, 2015 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2015 at 1:34 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(June 25, 2015 at 1:22 pm)Tonus Wrote:(June 25, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But we wouldn't be US if we didn't have free will. We wouldn't be human beings. We would just be puppets without a mind of our own or control over our bodies or minds. I would not be me, and you would not be you.If the only benefit of free will is that it gives me the option to condemn myself to hell for an eternity, then it's not very useful. If "me being me" can only result in eternal damnation, what good is free will?
You have the choice not to.
(June 25, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Alex K Wrote:(June 25, 2015 at 1:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Let's be clear.
I said 2 things:
1. God gave us free will
2. God allows nature to take its coarse
What I'm saying is the suffering in this would can be caused by one or both of those 2 things. I did not say definitely only the first one.
You used cancer as an example in your argument... I was merely showing you how I still would not rule out that man's free will has nothing to do with the existence of cancer. And if it didn't fall under free will, it would fall under nature.
Either way, I don't see how anything you're saying debunks my points. You merely just don't agree that it's ok for me to think God gave us free will or that He allows nature to take its coarse.
Fair enough.
I have already said I respect your opinion. I am open to discussion but I don't know what else you want to discuss with me here.
I'm not trying to debunk anything you say. I'm just pointing out that the God you worship is obviously evil, and you are in denial.
Ok, I respect your opinion.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
