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Best of all possible worlds offense
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RE: Best of all possible worlds offense
July 1, 2015 at 11:57 am
(June 27, 2015 at 6:31 pm)Lek Wrote: We don't assume God is good just because we want him to be, but the bible writers portrayed him as good and loving.  Although we know that suffering hurts and is uncomfortable, we can't assume that it is bad.  Why must we assume that anything that hurts or is uncomfortable is bad?  We know it's not enjoyable, but we don't know that it is always bad.  God also put his son through the same suffering as we go through.  So if he just makes us suffer because he enjoys watching us do so, then he also enjoys watching his own son suffer.  Jesus became a man and suffered in order to create a situation wherein people can have everlasting life, so I would assume that his suffering was for a good purpose, and was indeed good.  There is no reason to believe that all our suffering is for a bad, rather than good, purpose, or that God is wicked because he causes it or allows it.

If you can achieve something in two ways, and one way entails more suffering than the other, then the one with more suffering involves unnecessary suffering. I submit that unnecessary suffering is indeed bad.
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Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 25, 2015 at 8:08 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 25, 2015 at 8:58 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by brewer - June 25, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 25, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by ignoramus - June 25, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by robvalue - June 25, 2015 at 9:02 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 25, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by ignoramus - June 25, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 25, 2015 at 9:06 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by ignoramus - June 25, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by dyresand - June 25, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 25, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 25, 2015 at 4:32 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by KevinM1 - June 25, 2015 at 4:34 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 25, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 26, 2015 at 9:19 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 25, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 25, 2015 at 4:53 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 25, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 26, 2015 at 9:23 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 25, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 25, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 25, 2015 at 5:15 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 25, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 7:45 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Bob Kelso - June 26, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 26, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Bob Kelso - June 26, 2015 at 4:59 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 26, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 26, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Tonus - June 26, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 26, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 26, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cato - June 26, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Longhorn - June 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 26, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by ignoramus - June 26, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - June 27, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 26, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 26, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Iroscato - June 26, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 26, 2015 at 10:03 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Chas - June 27, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by ignoramus - June 27, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Lek - June 27, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by RobbyPants - July 1, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 27, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Lek - June 27, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 27, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Lek - June 27, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Cyberman - June 28, 2015 at 7:35 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by Lek - June 28, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Best of all possible worlds offense - by robvalue - June 28, 2015 at 2:12 am

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