My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values

[CapnAwesome]

I definitely do not find selfishness at the root of my own actions. Even though I'm a selfish person, most of my actions are done out of boredom, or an effort to combat boredom and my moral values come from a wide myriad of places.  It's not a 'selfish' thing to deal with one's own boredom because there is no selfless alternative. It's not more selfish or selfless to remain bored. Selfishness has nothing to do with it and I think you and the other people who make this argument are just inserting selfish motivations everywhere where there are none. What I am finding more and more is that you've expanded the definition of selfishness to the point of ridiculousness. If Squashing a spider, not squashing a spider, eating a dog and not eating a dog are all selfish actions than it's a pointless definition that can be used on anything. NOT that everything is selfish.

Your problem is, you want to simplify the matter and say "Either eating a dog is selfish or having one as a pet is. NOT BOTH!!!". 

The reality is, both actions are clearly motivated by self interest. Until you understand that, I doubt there is any chance of you understanding the concept of selfishness being at the root of moral values.

Like I've repeated half a dozen times with no reply, you've just changed the definition to the point where it doesn't matter and can apply to anything and then fit it into everything. I could do the same thing with almost any motivation. I'll take boredom.

People aren't eating their pet dogs because the dogs provide them something to do and alieviate boredom in the future.
People eat dogs in some country because eating alleviates boredom.
People squash spiders because the temporary fear and combat of fighting the spider is really better than being bored.
People don't squash spiders because having them around with provide small moments of entertainment that will prevent future boredom.

Now I don't actually believe that, but this is exactly what you are doing, except with selfishness. You are squeezing selfish motivations into everything, even when most of the time it's really a stretch. Also saying that I'll understand what you are saying when I've already accepted your basic premise is circular and dumb. As is this whole concept, which I think I am done debating.