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My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values
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RE: My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values
(July 1, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Aristocatt Wrote: Disproving weak egoism seems pretty much impossible.  However the extent to which you need to dilute egoism to make it intellectually air tight makes it, from a pragmatic perspective, worthless.  I generally think that discussions of morality should have some pragmatic application.

These kinds of arguments, to me, feel like the arguments people bring in support of a rhetorical God.  Congratulations, you have defined the universe and all the laws within it as being some kind of God.  You still haven't differentiated yourself in anyway from atheists, except in your definition of God.  The rhetorical account of god always seemed like a cop out for people who don't want to be ostracized for their lack of belief in a logical(e.g. unmoved mover), or active(e.g. biblical) representation of god.

I think the word "dilute" is poorly used here, especially when you offer no position on the matter at all, other than to object to the method of presentation. Basically you want a discussion, which should search the deep meaning behind individual actions, to be limited to a surface level discussion. 

In other words, you would rather not consider the source of morality, and would rather just focus on the commonly accepted right/wrong or good/evil subject matter of morality, which is a surface level discussion. That would be the pragmatic thing to do, right? 

Hey, stealing and rape and murder are wrong and not doing those things is right. I don't care how we reached that general consensus, the important thing is that we got there. Boo yah!

Glad we cleared that up. Saved ourselves from really considering the matter. Case closed.
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RE: My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values - by smax - July 1, 2015 at 4:29 pm

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