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My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values
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RE: My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values
(June 28, 2015 at 8:41 pm)smax Wrote:    smax
   Morality is the product of selfish interests.


   In time (a long time), I believe we will eliminate religion and the personal god, among many other deterrents to human prosperity, and we will take huge strides toward a far more lengthy and fulfilling existence. Because eventually we will realize the things that stand in the way of a longer, healthier, and more fulfilling life and we will squash those things like a spider.
My bold.

It is if you so define it.
I largely agree with your contention that morality is a product of self serving behavior but in my model, I expand the concept into scales of complexity greater or lesser than human.
There exist recognizable self replicating assemblages from the very small, like a gene, to the very large, such as large social constructs; a religion, a company, a country.
Any replicating entity is subject to evolution through natural selection.  There will be a greater or lesser fidelity and frequency of replication depending on the individual instance and its environment.  A self aware organism might make better choices which serve to extend itself and its progeny into the future.  This could be looked on as selfish.  Morality as commonly viewed is a codification of this behavior amongst us self aware humans. Generally and largely transparently, we ignore other scales.  But it would be equally valid to see it from the gene's perspective, or that of a society. 
For instance, to a company, the greatest sin might be failing to make an economic profit leading to the bankruptcy and dissolution of that company.  In this case, to the company,  profit is moral and selfish and bankruptcy is the evil of extinction.  Not being self aware, the company cannot be cognizant of norms or intentionally act normatively.  In this it is me who is maintaining a consistent definition of morality.
Altruism involves the sacrifice by some individual to the greater good which could be seen as selfish behavior by whatever benefits from such good.  Working long hours and ruining a person's health would then be immoral to the person yet moral for the company.  I often ask if a mother bear that, while defending her cub, kills a human hunter, is acting morally or immorally.  In my view, it is both; moral for the bear, immoral for the hunter.
Your utopian statement above is shallow.  The world is more complicated than you appear to realize and your simple concepts of justice and good ignore time and context.  What are you doing that will be condemned by future society?  I can't predict what, but I'm sure there is something.  To think perfection of your own morality is arrogance.  The 'greatest generation' oppressed women, persons of color and anyone not outwardly heterosexual.  Were they wrong or are we?  Time will tell.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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RE: My supporting POV on selfishness motivating human moral values - by JuliaL - July 2, 2015 at 2:23 am

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