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[Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax?
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RE: [Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax?
(July 4, 2015 at 8:43 am)pool Wrote: I'd like to start this thread by reminding everyone that i debated over in my last thread that this is a thread i opened for a discussion to clear some of my doubts.

char *SMDLFR = "I don't have a strong mathematical background nor a science so if i made some dumb mistake please be polite and point it out";

Past | Present | Future -Hoax?

I Think we are all familiar with the concept of Past,Present and Future.

Past is what happened.
Present is what is happening.
Future is what is going to happen.

I think everyone would agree.(If you don't - please tell us why.)

So as i was awake during a silent night at around 1:30 am i came across this thought:

1 day(24 hrs) before the present time is the past.
1 hour(60 mins) before the present time is the past.
1 min(60 seconds) before the present time is the past.
1 second before the present time is the past.

So,wouldn't it be fair to say that:

1/10 second before the present time is the past.
1/100 second before the present time is the past.
1/1000 second before the present time is the past.
1/10000 second before the present time is the past.
1/100000 second before the present time is the past.

i.e. 1/infinity second before the present time is the past. (Reminder: SMDLFR)


That is just false.  0 seconds into the past is the present.  If you continued your faulty reasoning, you would also be saying things like:

-1/infinity second before the present time is the past.

(That is just another way of saying 0 and is the present.)


-1/100000 second before the present time is the past.

(That is the future.)


When you say that 1/n seconds before the present time is in the past, that will only be true of finite positive values for n.  It is not a formula that always gets you the past.


(July 4, 2015 at 8:43 am)pool Wrote: So,i considered the number 1/infinity and i was like - wow what a small number its amazing because this frigging number is like infinitely small :Shock 0.O)


It is not infinitely small.  It is zero.


(July 4, 2015 at 8:43 am)pool Wrote: So small that i thought perhaps this number would be negligible.(Reminder: SMDLFR)

So:
Negligible second before the present time is the past.

Wouldn't that make Past a non-existent idea?(Reminder: SMDLFR)


No.  Even if you were right (and you are not; see above), that would mean that the present was in the past, not that the past does not exist.  And of course, the conclusion is contradictory so you should realize that something is amiss (and it is; see above).


(July 4, 2015 at 8:43 am)pool Wrote: Similarly,
Wouldn't that make Future a non-existent idea?

And then i really freaked out:
Wouldn't that make Time traveling an impractical idea? And really smart scientists believe that the idea of time traveling is real.So it was obvious that my logic was faulty somewhere - i just don't know where - so i'm kind of scared.

Can someone please tell me why i'm wrong?
(I'm really not a math or science person and can very well be spitting out blunder so i hope you'd be cooperative.)

Other than that,i'd like a general discussion on the topic.

- Thank you for reading.

On what topic?  The idea that 1/infinity = 0?  Time travel?  Something else?

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: [Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax? - by IATIA - July 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm
[Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax? - by KUSA - July 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: [Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax? - by Cato - July 4, 2015 at 3:10 pm
RE: [Past|Present|Future] Timetravel - Hoax? - by Pyrrho - July 5, 2015 at 12:50 pm

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