(July 6, 2015 at 7:59 am)paulpablo Wrote:(July 6, 2015 at 5:37 am)TheMonster Wrote: I know this is off topic, but what do you guys think of websites like Stormfront or any other "white nationalist" websites?
The fact they exist scares the shit out of me! I mean, yeah freedom of speech and all that, but seriously, every year at least one hundred murders are linked to storefront alone.
If you browse through their pages, there are eery mentions of race wars, interracial "mongrels", the need for "white only" countries, hate of homosexuals, antisemitism, Holocaust deniers, conspiracy theories, even planning of mass shootings (I shit you not!) and so on.
Are they trolling? Are they serious? (Some should be as they committed hate crimes and they proudly announce it with evidence)
I mean I understand (but do not condone in anyway) nationality based supremacy, but seriously race based ones? It seems so arbitrary, I mean Iraqis are technically "White", but I am sure these guys will not include them in their ranks!
What are your thoughts? Should we be concerned?
Can we classify them as terrorists? (Because we classify people of color who do similar things as terrorists)?
Are you claiming that at the moment we aren't classifying white terrorists are terrorists because they aren't a "person of colour" The main person everyone knows about connected to storm front was Anders Breivik, convicted of terrorism and classified as a terrorist.
So yes we can and do classify them as terrorists if they are involved in acts of terrorism.
If a black muslim commits a murder like the people who murdered lee Rigby in London then they are convicted of murder and not terrorism, the judge isn't likely to change the conviction of murder to terrorism on the grounds that they are black. and Muslim
I also think you got the statistic wrong, it's nearly 100 murders in the last 5 years. http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/04/17...ont-users/
I'm not really afraid of it, on a day to day basis I mainly focus on the things I can prevent the easiest, I can't really take steps to avoid being the victim of random crazy spree killers or terrorists.
As for racial superiority vs national superiority I suppose it's just a question of nature vs nurture. A persons race (if you believe race exists) is part of their nature and their genetics which makes people excel in certain measurable values such as strength speed and intelligence. But then without good nurturing and being raised in a country where you don't die at a young age from starvation for example is also important to excel in anyway. I think it's equally illogical to think you're superior purely because of your race, as it is to believe you're superior because of your nationality.
I was referring to the fact that white supremacist crimes usually get pinned on some sort of mental disorder. The same does not necessarily apply to Muslims. Have you ever heard of a Muslim man who did something terrible because he was "mentally ill"? That shit never gets reported.
It is a documented fact: http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteveryt...terrorism/
I know it is not the case all the time, it is however all too common in places like the US and UK.
Sorry for misquoting the number of murders. I was trying to remember it off the top of my head. 20/year is serious none the less, and most are committed in the US. However, they are now trying to get people form other "white" countries to support their cause such as Australia, SA and Canada, with varying levels of success.
I do agree that people with certain genetics (not necessarily with race) do have some superior qualities. However, a lot has to do with other factors, 90% I would say. Culture, nurture and the environment play a huge role (even things like what your mother did when you were pregnant). For example: Most Asians in the US and Canada do better in school than their peers not necessarily because they are genetically better, but because the culture demands high standards from them. As the UN's Africa plan team put it: " What if the cure for cancer is stuck in the hear of an uneducated African child living in poverty?"
I said nationality "makes sense" because I can understand (but disagree with these idiots) why people love their country and wish to protect it. Some people might see immigrants as harming their nation or the way they think their nation should look like. I can see the logic in that, but I fail to see any logic in people who believe in "White nations" and their inherent superiority.
As they say: "If the only thing that makes you proud is your race, then that says a lot about what you have accomplished in life"
