Hate forums: What are your thoughts?

[Dystopia]

There's a fundamental mistake in your argument: Nazism wasn't about the state but about creating what they considered the perfect people. The state and nationalisms were the instruments to enforce it, but it wasn't at the center of the ideology. The ideology was purely racist in nature.

That's how people like the KKK or white supremacists or even Russian and Greek neo nazis make ends meet to fit their own agenda without resorting to the German brand of old. They hate the same kind of people and in some cases the churches provided and still provide spiritual cover for them. Religion isn't the motivating factor, that's for sure, but it isn't incompatible either.

I disagree - Nazism (or National-Socialism as they call it) is a branch of fascism, which is a Statist and inherently totalitarian ideology - Despite the nuegative connotation of the word, fascists and nazis see totalitarian as something positive, basically like liberals and conservatives see free speech - I'm sorry, but while Nazism wasn't solely about the State, Hitler took inspiration and tried to effectively accomplish Mussolini's idea that individuals are not as important as the common good and the State and thus your will is only valid for as long as it matches the expectations and goals of the State. The State is a central entity because in these ideologies it takes an almost spiritual, omnipresent form, kinda like a God basically - Communism is materialistic, fascism is anti-materialistic - National-Socialism was based on race and it is a very peculiar form of fascism because the original conception wasn't very racist (just as racist as the rest of the world was at the time) and it was actually contrary to nazism because mediterranianism, a race theory popular in Italy that influenced Italian fascism, argued for the superiority of the Italian and southern European race (which Hitler thought was inferior to the Nordic-German one).

It is because racist assholes are stupid fools who are incapable of making fine distinctions. Or even the fairly coarse distinctions that you mention. If they were intelligent, they would not believe the nonsense they spout.

Basically, racism is due to being too stupid and lazy to judge people on their individual merits. It is much easier to just group people together and judge them all at once instead of taking the time, trouble, and effort to come to a reasonable conclusion about them individually.

So, quite a few people with shit for brains are racist assholes. Until stupidity is cured, we can expect to have them around.

It is also intellectually and academically lazy - Communism and socialism is not the same as Liberalism, in fact the former ideologies are inherently anti-capitalist and therefore anti-liberalism because liberalism allows for private property and the free market. You cannot simply lump all your opponents under the same label just because they don't agree with you, it's intellectually dishonest and annoying. Cultural Marxism doesn't exist, there is nothing in Marxism that we can understand that brings us to what supremacists call the invasion of white countries - Not only that, but there isn't an agreement on Marxist circles on what is moral or not aside from workers and common ownership of the means of production so a communist could be socially liberal and tolerant but as witnessed by Stalin's reign it is possible for a communist to be homophobe and probably other nasty -isms (Even though academically I think racism at least is not compatible with communism as the main goal is to unite the workers, but Stalinism can allow a bit of racism).

Just like I think we shouldn't put all leftists in the same category, I wouldn't put all rightists in the same category as well - A socially liberal but economic conservative is not the same as a socially conservative neo-con, or as a traditionalist European monarchist, or as a Christian democrat, and a fascist who prefers the Italian version is not the same as one who prefers Nazism.