(October 9, 2010 at 5:31 am)Chuck Wrote: So which developed capitalist countries with any modicum of success had done so without allowing for what right wingers would call "socialist" tendencies?I didn't imply otherwise... at least not intentionally.
Most successful countries have elements of both to varying extents.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:31 am)Chuck Wrote: And no, India is not every bit as capitalist like the US. It is actually extremely bureaucratic with very deeply entrenched socialistic expectation on the part of vast majority of it's population that no hopeful candidate, thanks to it's democratic system, can think of leaving unfilled. This is why the old line Marxist indian communist party can still be the power broker in Indian government.So they're a democratic society with a regulated capitalist economic system with very different problems from us but problems none the less of their own.
(October 9, 2010 at 5:31 am)Chuck Wrote: So it appears the relationship between degrees of socialism, degrees of democracy, and degree of economic success is far more complicated than overconfident, under-informed ideologues is capable of understanding.I completely agree.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
