Will Humans Have Freewill in Heaven?

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If you are using slavery as imagery for not having any will of your own AND agreeing that this is the correct way to view your relationship with god does this make you in agreement of slavery now? If this is the best design of imagery a god could come up with then that doesn’t say much about god. 

Why? Because you have a very narrow view of slavery and God is not speaking directly to you? What of the billions who came before who understood that the word slavery meant to have much broader applications than what you have come to understand?

Paraphrased argument: “Either you are a slave to sin or a slave to me and if you are a slave to me it actually brings you much freedom even though my definition of freedom is not to have any mind of your own.”

Not bad, except you left out you truly don't have a mind of your own now, just an illusion of it.

This sounds more like antiquated views of pro-slavery being squeezed into a false metaphor to fit certain ideas of how god worked not vice versa.

how is the metaphore considered to be false?

The fact that you support this ideal must mean you still support slavery today.

WE Do still support the biblical definition of slavery today, even the 18th century picture most of you have adopted as it's singular meaning. "Modern" city/western life would not be possible if not for slavery. So what does pop culture do? Does it truly abolish slavery? no. It simply renames the slave and His labor and then everything is ok with pop morality. Even though the work and actual physical labor for little to no pay/with little to no chance of a life style change for the modern slave exists.

So the cognitive dissonance lies in your court. If you say you don’t agree with slavery today, what mental gymnastics do you perform to not agree to neo-slavery but agree to being a slave to god?

All I have done to accept Slavery is to use the biblical definition of the greek dullos which includes but not limited to what you identify as a slave. A slave/Servant/Endentured Servant/Employee all = the greek word Dullos. A Dullos is one who will is superceeded by that of His Master. I have surrendered my Will and seek that of God. Which believe it or not has provided me with far more than I could have ever imagined for myself. 

In reality, we don’t know there is a god and there certainly doesn’t appear to be any justifiable evidence.

That's not true God provides all the evidence we could possible need for a life time if we simply A/S/K for it.

1.) My view of slavery is not narrow by any means. It's the same view that others held when they finally realized this is not the way the world should work. I can't believe you honestly expect anyone to believe that people support biblical slavery today by renaming slavery to "work". So no, I won't accept your false equivocation. The tenants were far different. The biblical form of slavery was a clear violation to human rights and the consequences for disobedience were FAR more immoral then consequences for disobedience at work under a modern U.S. like society. The last time I checked my employer couldn't beat me if I didn't show up to work. 

2.) The metaphor itself is a true metaphor. The idea behind is what is inexplicably false and should be admonished. The theology behind the slave / eunuch cast system represented in the OT is quite clear in showing the once slave willingly return to his master to become his literal property and be castrated as a eunuch. This is big brother 101 like I mentioned before. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is good. Questioning is bad. 

3.) If your will is superceded to your master, god, then we have a real problem because i know you're going to start with "knowing god's will" by what he says in the bible. How do you know it's actually his word? Because the bible says so. But why believe the bible? Because it's the infallible word of god.....and here we go with the same old circular arguments. The bible is in fact, the reason I become a non-believer. When it's looked at in the correct manner, conflicting stories, atrocities, misogyny, injustice, cruelty and violence etc. it's easy to see that it is not the inspired word of god, but written by many humans, with differing viewpoints, all of which have been the cause of mass confusion. It's why there are so many sects of christianity. The can't all be right...and how do you decide which one is? Oh I know,  A/S/K.  No, that's nonsense because the answer you receive is purely subjective to what you think anyway. It's an interpretation and who's to say you're correct and the person sitting next to you isn't? 

Sorry Brich but the rationalizations just don't add up regardless of the spin you or anyone else puts on them.