(July 11, 2015 at 12:55 am)Godschild Wrote: No, and the simple explanation to this, Chad and I both have given, all choices in heaven will be choosing one good thing or another good thing, there will be no evil choices, God's ultimate will for heaven will be absolute perfection, without any faults.
GC
Rhonda Wrote:Then it is god's fault that Satan and the other angels sinned because if god can make it so we don't have the opportunity to choose anything bad in Heaven,
No it's not, I see you like to blame God for everything, I would bet you are a person who runs from responsibility when something you do goes wrong.
If Lucifer and the other angels had not rebelled there may have never been a need for heaven, that is as long as man never disobeyed God. There had to be choice to begin with, because God knew that without it some would complain, Lucifer was unhappy because he thought he should have been created higher than his creator, kinda' the way I see some here (cry babies).
Rhonda Wrote:he could have done the same for them. The catch is, if you explain how they sinned, you will also be explaining how we could sin as well.
No He couldn't, the question of God's superiority and those who wanted to be with Him for eternity had to be settled. Lucifer started this with his own wrong choice and man continued it. Like I said above if Lucifer and man had not disobeyed there would not have been a need for heaven.
Rhonda Wrote:Your answers are good if we don't look at them to closely. I have yet to meet a Christian who can give me an answer that doesn't fall apart upon close inspection.
You can't be serious. You haven't returned a good argument to me yet and you dodge most of what I bring to the table and cry about what you decide to answer. Something that seems to be religious conduct among many atheist here.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.