(July 15, 2015 at 10:06 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: [color=#cc3399]What you keep pussy-footing around, Drich-head, is that you don't think spouses should deny consent unless both spouses can agree that there's a legitimate, Gaud-sanctioned reason for consent to be denied. Your idea of love is completely centered around power, control, and obligation, and considering what your Gaud teaches about love (especially by example), I can't say I find that surprising.Uhh, no. What you continually fail to understand is in a Christian Marriage, two become one. That we cease to be indivisuals and become paired collective. That's in what Paul says in 1 cor 7. We being two halves of one being are called to behave and care for the one being that we are to become, over how we care for ourselves.
We are to put our partner's needs first is what is being communicated here. Only a wraped or twisted mind looks for the loop holes that allow dominance in what is being said.
Quote:[color=#cc3399]If consent is being denied by one person or another, that's it. Period. Regardless of the relationship. There is no situation in objective reality where it is anybody's "duty" to have sex with anyone else. That only happens in fucked up patriarchal fantasy worlds like the one iterated in your Bibble.
In your messed up world where husband and wives are little more than people who live together (they fend for themselves) I agree. But for those call to a deeper connection those who seek to live as 'one flesh' it stops being about self or indivisuality, and then becomes about the person you are your spouce are called to become. If one seeks to become one with their spouce they have to stop living for self and put the other person first in all things.
