(July 15, 2015 at 11:09 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: Using meta-bullshit-semi-religious terms like consciousness won't prove anything but how naive you are. I am thinking with my brain, just as you are just like an atom moves because of its energy. There's nothing miraculous or unique about it. You're just inevitably biased because of your perspective on yourself, just like the atom might be. Consciousness is a redundant term and doesn't really mean anything. One need only think about this to understand that this idea of consciousness doesn't hold any water at all. To be conscious would imply to be Godlike. We are not godlike. Everything we do is predetermined by other factors which we can't possibly trace back or comprehend. Therefore, what you call 'consciousness' isn't anything more to humans than, say, gravity is to a planet.
Meta-bullshit? semi-religious? I hate to burst your narcissistic, my-ideas-are-more-refined-than-yours wankfest, but here is the definition of consciousness...
Quote:con·scious·ness
ˈkän(t)SHəsnəs/
noun
1. the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings.
2. the awareness or perception of something by a person.
3.the fact of awareness by the mind of itself and the world.
You see, it requires none of the extra bullshit baggage you've attached(godlike, wtf is that?), and that definition fits quite well with a physical reductionist approach to the mind, which I happen to take. Hell, by trying to explain that your brain does not have a consciousness, you've demonstrated an awareness about your mind, and that is precisely what consciousness is.
I know you're desperate to feed your ego and demonstrate how much better than everyone you are(seriously, get some real fucking self-esteem so we don't have to witness this pathetic attempt to drown us in your superiority complex), but you can't just go redefining words to your liking.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell