RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
July 16, 2015 at 9:55 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 10:02 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 16, 2015 at 9:40 am)lkingpinl Wrote: 1. The extreme fine-tuning of the universe in order for the possibility of human life in relation to the astronomically calculated odds of this happening by chance.We should not be surprised to find that the universe supports the existence of the creature asking a question about the universe. If it didn't, the creature wouldn't exist to ask questions in the first place. This isn't mystical, it isn't informative, it isn't representative of some god or celestial design...it's a giant "no shit" statement that still manages to get it woefully wrong regardless. Anthropic principle.
Quote:2. Why if you see your name written in the sand on the beach you can not fathom that the waves, rocks, sticks somehow worked in random fashion to scrawl your name but you automatically assume a person wrote it (intelligent being), but when you look at the longest word ever discovered, the human genome (3.5 billion letters in precise order) you assume random chance?I -can- imagine that, but I don;t have to....because it happens with greater regularity and more complexity than you seem to realize. People see images of jesus on toast...that's a bit higher level than some scratches on the sand. It's in our nature to look for patterns - particularly familiar ones, and it's well within the realm of possibility that I can see a pile of sticks spell out my name. I -have- seen it before. And clouds. The shapes of states......... the list goes on and on. I only think a person wrote my name when it's clear that it isn't just a pile of sticks. I also understand that people can unintentionally write my name (just as before, I might see my name in a Georgia O'Keefe painting). I see that others have already explained the dna bit is equivocation.
This is all so damned silly it doesn't seem to do much justice to the -idea- of a god.....but this was your evidence....for an -actual- god?
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