RE: I'm sick and tired of this.. please be advised: the following is a rant!
October 15, 2010 at 11:43 am
(This post was last modified: October 15, 2010 at 2:58 pm by Anomalocaris.)
It is not very hard to find a small handful, say a dozen, devoted nuts who are genuinely capable of believing anything about a guru and do anything, say anything, go to any lengths to follow what they might conceive to be the will and bidding of their guru. The way to harden the resolve of these sort of nuts, to push them to vouch for ever more extreme positions, is to threaten to kill them for it. There are similar holyman at the beginning of many other religions, Islam, for example, who also apparently saw supernatural acts on the part of their gurus with their own very eager eyes that convinced, without much resistance, them of direct link between their guru and god.
Even now, followers of Fulunggong cult in china, for example, endure torture in chinese detention, some are said to have died under the treatment, and refuse to denounce their guru, an ex- chinese army NCO who claims access to divine truth through an imaginary divine wheel of the way and the law. And they too disseminated outrageous tales of their guru which they claim to have witnesses, like raising the dead, healing the terminally ill with touch, levitating objects, sight that see through mountains much less walls, reading thoughts, etc, and showed proven, it is said, willingness to sacraficed themselves in devotion to their guru. Hitler, mao and Kim, who didn't even explicitly claim to be gods, had more than just a small handful of such die hard devotees claiming to witness evidence oft divine selection, and show willingness to die for this selectee. Christians have the intellectual integrity to elevate the founder and saints of other religions to equal status as their Jesus based on the same willingness of some to die in false testimony?
How long did it take from resurrection to ascension? 40 days? How long will it take for Jesus's corpse to completely decompose to unidentifiable bones under the hot judean sun, thus unable to contradict and embarasse the ascension story? a month? 40 days?
Get it through your head, Jesus's disciples were few and they were nobody in the society. Jesus was a minor criminal the Romans have executed. RThe Romans were done with this nuisance, which didn't bother them and they only took on at the behest of local secular and religious authority anyway. besides the apostles any other following of jesus might have had probably melted away with the crucifixion, and the romans were probably well pleased with the result, to the degree they cared. The few diehard Jesus followers would not have been on roman radar screens during the time jesus's dead body rotted to nothing, and for many years afterwards. So no, the Romans would not be expected to have paraded the rotting putrefying corpse of Jesus - not the only one they executed about that time - around in hot Judean sun to dignify it with notice, and upset local Jewish customs, increase the tension with the locals, just to refute a few out there nuts of Jesus.
The local secular and religious authority also would not have violated Jewish custom to desecrate the dead body just to spite a small group of nobody. Jesus was what annoyed them. As far as they were concerned the head of the snake of this annoyance has been cut off by the Romans, the body will wither and die of it's own accord.
Even now, followers of Fulunggong cult in china, for example, endure torture in chinese detention, some are said to have died under the treatment, and refuse to denounce their guru, an ex- chinese army NCO who claims access to divine truth through an imaginary divine wheel of the way and the law. And they too disseminated outrageous tales of their guru which they claim to have witnesses, like raising the dead, healing the terminally ill with touch, levitating objects, sight that see through mountains much less walls, reading thoughts, etc, and showed proven, it is said, willingness to sacraficed themselves in devotion to their guru. Hitler, mao and Kim, who didn't even explicitly claim to be gods, had more than just a small handful of such die hard devotees claiming to witness evidence oft divine selection, and show willingness to die for this selectee. Christians have the intellectual integrity to elevate the founder and saints of other religions to equal status as their Jesus based on the same willingness of some to die in false testimony?
How long did it take from resurrection to ascension? 40 days? How long will it take for Jesus's corpse to completely decompose to unidentifiable bones under the hot judean sun, thus unable to contradict and embarasse the ascension story? a month? 40 days?
Get it through your head, Jesus's disciples were few and they were nobody in the society. Jesus was a minor criminal the Romans have executed. RThe Romans were done with this nuisance, which didn't bother them and they only took on at the behest of local secular and religious authority anyway. besides the apostles any other following of jesus might have had probably melted away with the crucifixion, and the romans were probably well pleased with the result, to the degree they cared. The few diehard Jesus followers would not have been on roman radar screens during the time jesus's dead body rotted to nothing, and for many years afterwards. So no, the Romans would not be expected to have paraded the rotting putrefying corpse of Jesus - not the only one they executed about that time - around in hot Judean sun to dignify it with notice, and upset local Jewish customs, increase the tension with the locals, just to refute a few out there nuts of Jesus.
The local secular and religious authority also would not have violated Jewish custom to desecrate the dead body just to spite a small group of nobody. Jesus was what annoyed them. As far as they were concerned the head of the snake of this annoyance has been cut off by the Romans, the body will wither and die of it's own accord.
