(July 17, 2015 at 2:01 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(July 17, 2015 at 1:48 am)Rhythm Wrote: No, it's not a moot point, and you don't get to hide behind the word belief in this case. Those were -justifications- for beliefs, Catholic. They were arguments, meant to be compelling and authoritative.
Are you unwilling to affirm that if there where no god there would be no dignity? This is a hypothetical, Cath, all I'm changing is god. You don't have to believe it, or believe that this is the world we live in. I'm simply asking you whether or not you think dignity could exist in a world where people do...but god does not?
I have no idea what you are talking about as far as "justification" for my beliefs go. I'm answering you honestly. We believe that if God didn't exist, or if He hadn't created us, we wouldn't exist. If you don't accept my answers as an honest answer, or if you're going to accuse me of "justification," then I don't see the point in asking.
Now to answer your hypothetical question... If I believed a God did not exist then I would take the exact some position on this as a lot of the atheists on this site: that human life has no inherent dignity. Since I believe inherent dignity was given to us by God, I don't believe it would be there if He did not exist.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-34114.html
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
