Atheism, the short lived idea?

[solja247]

The idea of witches is found in every culture, what does that mean? Witches exist??

Perhaps? I dont know if there has been enought study into the supernatural to dismiss it completely.

The claim is that god exists, so it is that claim that must be tested. The problem is that it can't be tested, because personal revelation is, by definition, first person, subjective, and not amenable to scientific scrutiny. As such, no one is under any obligation to believe one person's personal revelation over that of another's.

You would be a Christian if you had thought God answered your prayers. Personal revelation does very much so validate someone's belief.

Sugar, I hate to knock a hole in your argument, but the ideas of the things I just named were also found in every culture. They might look slightly different, or have different names, but they're all the same. Joseph Campbell did extensive research on this. Dragon creatures, "little people", big hairy hominids running around, shapeshifters, ghosts, gods, they're pervasive. It's why the idea of "collective unconscious" emerged. We're all humans, and genetically we're 99% (give or take a few .somethings) alike. Human nature doesn't change so drastically from era to era or continent to continent that we couldn't accept that "god" was as much a part of a human need to understand or explain the unknown as any other mythological figure. The reason I don't believe there's a god is exactly because I don't have empirical date, any more than I believe there's a bigfoot or Santa Claus. I'm quite willing to change my mind if god comes out of hiding and reveals himself to me. I'm also willing to say bigfoot exists if someone throws a body at the feet of a geneticist.

Dragons are not found in the Aboriginal or polynesian cultures to my understanding. Giant lizards and massive birds were part of their belief, which we know were true and did exist, not that long ago. so I wounldnt say all cultures.

I reject the idea that it exists because I have no proof.

You are trying to use science when philosophy is needed. Im not arguing from science, but from philosophy.

The burden of proof is on the 'believers', not the unbelievers, as science doesn't prove a negative.

I think arguments such as the ontological, cosmological, teleological and even objective meaning (We can only have absolute meaning, when there is a God)

It would make my life a lot easier to happily place all my problems and worries into a divine being's hands and say "you fix it" like I would a broken toy to my parents. As you grow up though, you realize that your parents CAN'T fix everything.

Neither do I, I believe in free will, we shape our on lives, as a Theist, I shape my life around God. So far it has been very beneficial.

Where was god during the Holocaust? Stalin's regime? The Crusades? Pol Pot's shenanigans? If there is a god, he needs to show himself, and take blame for neglect. Or, if it was all part of his plan along with free will, people need to realize he's not a good god and more, as Carlin said, like an office temp with a bad attitude. But I digress.

You are trying to blame God, if we want to blame anyone we should blame human nature, Hitler wasnt God so why are we trying to blame God? Perhaps our understanding of God is wrong?

I don't even know how to respond to this. Believing whatever someone else told you is a symptom of being somewhere around 14 years or younger.

I dont. I was listening to the Bible one day, contemplating if I should deny the Jewish history and I realised something, Joshua is history, the way there are talking about things, there isnt anything poetic in it either! I accept Jewish history because I dont see why I shouldnt. I believe a pagan by the name of Abraham was the first Jew, not the first follower of YHWH though.

This isn't all chance.

How is it not? Evolution is a series of chances which have allowed animals to create a niche, or be on top of the food chain?