(July 20, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Philosophical arguments not only don't lead to a personal god, they tend to lead to a rather limited one defined by the particular proof. Thus the designer, the first mover, the thing that has always existed and so on. None of them is much like the god of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Nor do most of them lead to a god that is necessarily still in existence. Could the first mover have expired in the effort? Why not. Same problem with the designer.I'll never understand the leap from "there is a first cause/designer/higher power" to "therefore, personal" to "therefore Jee sus!"
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot
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We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
