RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 4:45 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 4:40 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(July 20, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So are you saying we should still generalize all Christians as thinking gays are vile?
Not at all. I just find myself troubled by certain christians thinking "those people are in the minority," is an adequate response, when to an actual member of the LGBTQ community who grew up at the tail end of homophobia's social acceptability, it comes across as altogether too simplistic and trivial a response for a very real issue.
I'm glad that you don't share those views, and I don't think for a moment that you should be put in a position of having to defend them, but the way you put them out of your mind as if they're no big deal is a problem for guys like me who still find themselves shamed daily by those exact attitudes. Yes, a small percentage of christians find themselves swayed to homophobia by the bible now, but that wasn't always the case, and it certainly was not the bible that prompted this change. You guys had yourself dragged kicking and screaming into equality, and now many among you just want to just wipe away the tears from the tantrum and then act like it never happened at all. Well, sorry, but that kind of refusal to recognize the past leaves one dangerously close to repeating it, an act that we've seen time and again when fundamentalist movements are allowed to have their way by christians and secularists alike not seeing the threat and doing nothing.
Ah, gotcha. I agree, btw. I wasn't meaning to say we should just say "oh well, they're not very many people so whatever," and leave it at that.
That's not what I meant by that. I agree they need to have their beliefs regarding gay people challenged and criticized by Christians and non Christians a like. What I meant was I have never met one myself to do the criticizing. If I did meet one, I would definitely say something.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
