RE: For People Who Think There Was No Historical Jesus
February 11, 2013 at 12:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm by Confused Ape.)
(February 11, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Drich Wrote: So your putting together an arguement, and you need help filling in the holes.
I think there's a possibility that somebody qualified as being an historical Jesus. Some people insist that there wasn't anyone, though, so I'm wondering how they can answer the questions I asked. I added the bit about barking mad ideas permitted so the topic can be a fun exercise as well as a serious one.
(February 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Personally, I find the urban legend idea much more compelling than a vague idea of "some guy named Yeshua who was some kind of religious preacher or something but we don't know much else about him".
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Urban legend is a feasible idea because urban legends are with us today.
(February 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm)Zone Wrote: It matters about as much as how Islam or Mormonism got started if it isn't actually true. Charismatic individuals throughout history founded various religious movements, Christianity happens to be the most populat of em.
It doesn't matter in the sense that Christianity is here and has been for 2,000 years. Some people try to convince Christians that it's all a load of rhubarb by just saying that there wasn't anyone who could have been an historical Jesus. I don't see how this would convince Christians if there isn't an alternate explanation for how Christianity got started.
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(February 11, 2013 at 12:28 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: One question I always have in discussions like this is:
What do you mean by "historical Jesus" if you want to throw out all the miracles, divinity and other supernatural elements?
In this case just some man who was regarded as a Messiah by a few people in Judea. I don't find the idea of somebody starting a new Messianic movement impossible because of all the new religions which started up last century and this century. Most are offshoots of existing religions but some are New Age, Neo Pagan and UFO cults.
List Of New Religious Movements
In this post I reported finding a new cult whose leaders claim to be Jesus and Mary Magdalene reincarnated and it appears they've got followers.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-17095-po...#pid399124
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?
