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Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban
When I was really little, apparently my mom was giving me and my brother a bath and he got very distraught and yelled for her to come in the room where he pointed at me and said, "It broke off!"
That's the day we stopped bathing togetherTongue I don't remember it.

When I was in kindergarden, a boy had everyone in the class come to the back and he showed us his penis. Didn't irreparably damage me, but it did cause my mom to have to explain why his anatomy was different from mine and she felt that meant addressing sex as well. So, I had no idea what it was and no need to know until that moment that kid showed us all his package. I think anyone will agree that part of being a kid is being oblivious to some un-necessary things, and sex is one of them. That innocence since it is so short lived, is priceless.

Last point, when I was in elementary school I had a boy that stalked me. My 'emergency out' was the bathroom as I didn't know how to handle that. And that worked quite effectively, thus making the bathroom my safe haven. Even into high school they were my 'out' and I don't know what I would'v done had imposing boys been allowed into the bathroom and possibly been able to see through the cracks in the door or under the door or above the door. Privacy when peeing is nice, isn't it?

That's my reasoning for separate bathrooms. Other than cleanliness. If guys sat down to pee then I guess I wouldn't mind sharing a toilet with them but that's not fair to them if they don't want to, is it?
I agree with Lilly that it wouldn't be the end of the world, to use the bathrooms with the boys. But as a little girl I was certainly thankful we didn't have to.

I couldn't even imagine what it would be like to be a girl having to use the boys room. If indeed this 6yr old (thats what this thread is about btw to whomever asked) had to use the boys room and those boys ran around the bathroom with their pants down, I would be uncomfortable too as a boy or a girl. The things that Lilly had to endure growing up are things that make my heart sad, and I don't see anything wrong with the parents of this 6yr old fighting for their daughter's minority in seeking a resolution to this issue. Obviously it's an issue or this thread wouldn't be 14pgs long already Tongue
What I've seen as resolutions: uni-sex bathrooms requiring re-vamping bathrooms as they exist now, single uni-sex units, redefining 'girls' and 'boys', making exceptions for transgendered students, identifying bathroom use based on sexuality, and--well, that's all I can think of right now.

What's wrong with urinals being in stalls? And toilets as well? And why can't a transgender use a bathroom that inherently has stalls already--like the girls bathroom? ShellB is correct: if a girl wanted to use the boys bathroom it wouldn't be the issue this one is. Personally I can't fathom why the school brought it up in the first place, and blame them. They're the ones who knew this girl's gender, and they're OBVIOUSLY the ones who had a problem with it even though they quote other parents and students (who never would've known and shouldn't have) for their reasoning. Because usually employees of schools have kids in said school: the students know just as much as the teachers, typically.

Personally, I don't think the school needs to know someone's gender, besides the nurse. Medical files should be closed to the medical provider. But that's me.

I for one am glad that this girls' parents brought this up: it obviously does need to be addressed. Especially with the rising awareness and statistics of transgendered individuals in society.
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RE: Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban - by Mystical - March 5, 2013 at 4:52 pm

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