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Definition of and evidence for the holocaust
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RE: Definition of and evidence for the holocaust
(May 9, 2013 at 12:03 am)catfish Wrote:
(May 8, 2013 at 11:52 pm)A_Nony_Mouse Wrote: As the charge is mass murder I find the standards being the same as those in a simple murder trial to be acceptable. Acceptable sources would be those acceptable in such a trial. But of course the same rules would apply. Beyond a reasonable doubt for one. And then first the physical evidence a crime has been committed and then only sworn testimony to the physical evidence. Most of it everyone who watches TV has seen enough of it to speak the lines before the actors. Mass murder being a greater crime than a single murder there is no excuse for lesser standards.

If this really bothers anyone the Nuremberg trial transcripts are online to start with. If it were a US trial it would have been overturned on appeal as not being justice at all but it is a place to start.

What is not acceptable is anonymous words or people who spoke without oath and penalty of perjury, third party books talking about what anonymous sources said. Also not camp rumors, not hearsay, not communist war propaganda, not sources lying in part, not sources under duress, things unacceptable in a US court.

Will you accept that in US court, a confession, although solely testimony, is sufficient evidence?
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You mean you are going to present evidene of the crime having been committed in the first place so there would be a trial? After you have done that are you going to present the complete allocution to the manner and means of the crime? You are aware "I did it" is unacceptable.

After you provide a DEFINITION of what the crime is supposed to have been then I will be happy to evaluate the allocution of the crime. I cannot apriori agree to accept what I have not read. One cannot allocute to the impossible. One cannot allocute to what did not happen. Such things discredit the allocution and make it unacceptable.

No one knows why people confess to things they did not do, unless you believe there really were witches. Yes the majority were voluntary without even the threat of torture. A very strange fact found in the records along side records of torture so they were not hiding anything. That is why allocution is so important. That is why pertinent details of a crime are withheld to screen out the people confessing.
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RE: Definition of and evidence for the holocaust - by A_Nony_Mouse - May 9, 2013 at 12:28 am
A Lesson in evidence - by A_Nony_Mouse - May 10, 2013 at 5:53 pm

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