An atheists guide to reality

[Alex K]

And you're still begging the question, because the only way you could phrase my lack of objective meaning as a bad thing is if you can A: present me with evidence of some real objective meaning that I'm missing out on due to my current worldview, and B: demonstrate that this objective meaning actually confers a benefit. Without any of that, all this is, is me having to listen to you playing make believe and telling me how great your super special ultra meaning is, as if the product of your imagination should somehow make me jealous.

Just putting the word "premium" on the chocolate box doesn't make the stuff inside taste any better, dude.

Besides, just reducing my position to "sensory experience" is kind of inaccurate: I've got plenty of things going on in my life, creatively, emotionally and intellectually, that are plenty meaningful, and so far your position is just "that's not good enough," without ever explaining why. What measure do you have by which you can judge the meaning I derive from my life lesser than yours, other than that the voice in your head puffs itself up to be so important that you just feel like anyone not listening to it is lesser?

What do you actually have, other than bare assertions that my position is inferior because magic man?

Oh, and also? "Seems to be absurd logically" is an argument from personal incredulity.

Yep, you're definitely not getting the point. I don't need to provide evidence of any kind, I'm not trying to prove God exists. What I am saying is that if atheism is true then ultimately there is no meaning in life. We may "think" our lives have meaning and I'm sure most people do, it's whether this belief we have is true or not. So the focus is not on what I believe, but how atheists can logically claim meaning in life other than an imaginary one which they have created. Have you even looked at Rosenbergs book? He is an atheist and he wants atheists to face up to this problem.

Blablabla. You know, you could simply have asked anyone here whether and how they deal with this "problem". You haven't uncovered a great secret that we dont face or something. If you want to talk about your inability to live a fulfilling life without external determination of purpose, there are sure people here who will gladly like to help you. but not with that attitude...