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Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
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RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam
(September 6, 2014 at 5:54 pm)lifesagift Wrote:
(September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The verses in Quran if read logically obviously teach peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion. This is obvious to people acquainted with the whole Quran and take a holistic approach.

No.. later versions are more violent, and by tradition the latter versions should be followed..

The verses you are thinking about have to be read in context of the other verses. You should take a holistic approach.

Obviously if Quran was revealed by God, the former verses don't lose their eternal meaning in their context as neither do the later ones. It's just a matter of seeing the overall picture they are painting.

And it's as I said, peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion.

(September 6, 2014 at 6:02 pm)Tobie Wrote:
(September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The verses in Quran if read logically obviously teach peace as a primary principle, war in self defense, and freedom of religion. This is obvious to people acquainted with the whole Quran and take a holistic approach.

It's a pity that "war as self defense" has been ignored throughout history by Islamic nations.

The rulers didn't just ignore it attacking other nations, they killed their own citizen particularly the Shias, as well. The governments were unjust. But that's the fault of Muslims, not the founder of the religion.
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Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by mralstoner - September 3, 2014 at 2:25 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by DeistPaladin - September 3, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Natachan - September 3, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Anomalocaris - September 3, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Lucanus - September 4, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by vodkafan - September 6, 2014 at 8:33 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by vodkafan - September 6, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by downbeatplumb - September 7, 2014 at 5:56 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Mudhammam - September 6, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Dawsonite - September 6, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by downbeatplumb - September 6, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by DeistPaladin - September 6, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by lifesagift - September 6, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by lifesagift - September 6, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by MysticKnight - September 6, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by lifesagift - September 6, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by MysticKnight - September 6, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by lifesagift - September 6, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Tobie - September 6, 2014 at 6:02 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by DeistPaladin - September 6, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by mralstoner - September 6, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Tobie - September 6, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by MysticKnight - September 6, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by MysticKnight - September 6, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Zidneya - September 6, 2014 at 11:39 pm
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by Mudhammam - September 7, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Secularist Anne Marie Waters on Islam - by DeistPaladin - September 7, 2014 at 11:49 am

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