(September 28, 2015 at 4:44 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: So if you deny absolute truths exist, then what you would be saying is truth is relative. The statement, "truth is relative" is self-defeating. It either includes itself or excludes itself. If it includes itself then that statement is also relative and not always true. If it excludes itself it's positing an absolute while denying their existence.
I've seen statements like:
“Although Christianity may be true for you, it isn’t true for me.”
“You may believe in God and that’s okay for you, but it’s not true for me.”
“All religions are just different paths leading to truth.”
Each of these statements assumes truth can be different for different people at the same time. This violates that law of non-contradiction. Christian apologists maintain that although people are free to believe whatever they want to believe about the claims of Christianity, those beliefs have no logical bearing on whether the claims of Christianity are actually true or not true. Regardless of what people believe, God’s existence and Christianity are either really true or really false. If the God of the Bible exists, then what the Bible teaches about God’s existence is true and what an atheist believes about God is false. Conversely, if God does not exist, then what an atheist believes about God is true and what a Christian believes is false. It is logically impossible for both Christianity and atheism to be true, even though people on both sides of the issue may firmly believe their beliefs are true.
Thanks for the reply. I think what I'm asking is something separate from individual beliefs. What I am trying to convey is a truth that transcends environmental conditions... like space and time. Something completely (absolute) independent of personal beliefs or quantum physics or anything else (not to put personal beliefs in the same playing field as quantum physics).
