"heaven" meme on facebook

[TheRocketSurgeon]

if this is the case, I beg them pardon. Understand that it is difficult for me to answer or see their messagges when there are three or four talking to me and asking me multiple questions that need answering. I invite everyone that wants to ask me certain questions to ask them via private messagging, where no one can "interrupt" (for the lack of a better term).

Nice of you to ask forgiveness. It shows some human understanding. We're mainly Humanists, here, so that goes a long way.

I would invite you to simply ignore those whom you find offensive, and focus on those of us who actually wish to discuss.

if I am sincere, I would not, and since this actually happened a few times, trust me, I would not. I would do this: How do you know I really worshipped Allah, what are the causes and the nature of this statement? The same with the second question. I find fury unnecessary and unproductive, but I can know where your fury come from. From the little psychology I know, fury usually comes from unjustice. I have produced an unjustice to you when I "claimed" that "you are actually a liar and that you really hate God inside of you" (this is what you understood, but my statement was not that black and white), you considered this an unjustice since you do not believe this and I wrongfully attributed it to you. It is a natural response, however, natural responses are not always productive, and we have to focus on the potentiality of our debate, not on the actuality of it.

I should have been more specific. If Muslims came endlessly in a parade, with new ones popping up almost daily to your Christian forum, to tell you the same thing over and again, because Imams were telling them that Christians really believed in Allah and the Prophet, you'd eventually get pretty furious. Atheists must face a barrage of this sort of thing both online and in person, if we "come out" as nonbelievers, because of Christian domination of our society-- those same Christians who whine endlessly about how they're being oppressed.

You don't know where my fury comes from. Clearly. You're projecting an idea onto me because it suits your preconceptions. My fury comes from the injustice of being surrounded by a culture in which people tell me that I'm not "really" an atheist, or tell me that I don't understand science even though I'm a former professional scientist, or say that I'm __________ (insert varied preconceptions, "immoral/amoral" being a favorite) because I'm an atheist, or shun us from family and other social inclusions, or use our tax dollars to further their religions. An endless parade of this sort of news. I just had to explain it with an analogy, to another user in another thread, within the last 24 hours:

Again, and I want to make this very clear: if people were going around living by Sith principles (I would argue that's what followers of Ayn Rand do, but that's a whole other conversation) and declaring that others should do the same, time and again, I'd be pretty pissed-off every time I met yet another of those Vaderians, in their myriad varieties, telling me that I'm not a Sith simply because I'm angry at false portrayals of Vader and that if I really accept that Vader is real (since, they say, I secretly DO believe in Vader), I will feel the power of the Force "in my heart" (etc). How would you react to a society that endlessly barraged you with that method? Be honest.