Foundation of all Axioms the Axioms of Consciousness

[Bunburryist]

The events making the tree in your experience. There is a tree out side your body. Light from that tree creates events in your eyes and subsequently from your eyes via nerves in your brain. Now these last set of events is the tree you see. You see a representation of the real tree out there never the real tree itself.

If you want people to really understand representative realism, you need to clean up your "the"s and "your"s.  When you say "there is a tree outside your body" they think, "that's right - the green tree I see."  And when you say "your eyes" and "your brain," they automatically assume you mean what they experience as their eyes and the brains the believe to be in what they experience as their heads.  Most people -who claim to believe in the "scientific" sense story - actually believe there is light going into what they experience as their eyes, and that their minds happen in what they experience as their heads.  This is why, although representative realism is the only sense story that even sort of works with materialism (it doesn't really work at all), virtually no one actually understands it, and when they do, they don't really believe it.  This is often the point when you start hearing things like, "Oh, that's just semantics."  I wish science books/teachers would stop telling kids stuff like, "Everything you see is made of atoms" and "Your mind happens in your head."  Unfortunately, they don't teach science teachers about representative realism.  And so, science teachers, like everyone else, actually believe there is light "going through the space (they experience) around them" and that they see "because light goes into (what they experience as) their eyes," and "everything they (experience) seeing is made of atoms."  Of course, one of the many problems with the "scientific" sense story is that there is no rational way to go from what is believed to be a material brain in a material world to experience of any kind. 

(Then there's another problem that science books (in the "How We See" chapter) never tell kids - "Oh, by the way - what you, and your science teachers call "the material world" is not a material world at all.  You find or locate the material world relative to what you learn to call "the material world."  So where is "the material world"?  Well, it's kind of like, well, heaven.  We just have to try and imagine that it's really. . . well . . . somewhere.)

(Another interesting thought: even though it's an undeniable conclusion we have to reach from the "scientific" sense story, there is no time when the Guilded Halls of Science told us that "this" was no longer the material world.  And why?  Because they don't REALLY believe their sense story enough to actually teach it.)