RE: Jesus did not rise from the dead -- My debate opening statement.
January 13, 2017 at 11:47 am
(January 12, 2017 at 10:37 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(January 12, 2017 at 11:01 am)Drich Wrote: How do you know he didn't mention Jesus more?
Such a mention would have to be in those portions of his works that did not survive into the modern era; however, no such quotes exist among the pre-Nicene Church fathers that allude to such "missing quotations", which means that the only references from Josephus about Jesus are the ones that are available today. In any case, it is clear that Josephus was clearly unimpressed with Jesus and his so-called "miracles", just as he was unimpressed with the so-called Roman and Jewish miracle-workers.
Pre-Nicene Church Fathers?!?!?! ARe you f-ing kidding???
Pre-Nicene Church Father= So like 2nd century church leadership didn't say anything about Josephus???
1) do we have a complete record of the 2nd church fathers had to say about Josephus???
2) More importantly what would second century church Fathers have have a need for Josephus if some of them could still remember Christ themselves???