RE: Why Anarcho-Capitalism Is a Canard and Its Implications for Atheism
January 18, 2017 at 11:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2017 at 11:10 pm by log.)
(January 18, 2017 at 11:06 pm)Aegon Wrote:(January 18, 2017 at 10:56 pm)log Wrote: How do you own anything except you view yourself as being "right" in threatening people, and ultimately executing your threats, to control their behavior on or towards what you call your property? That is an implicit threat against all others.
And have you never rented, and had the landlord change your lease terms arbitrarily? And if you "own" a house, aren't you paying rent to the real owner, the state you live in, or the USFEDGOV? And aren't they changing the terms and conditions of you rental by passing laws?
Same thing.
Okay, what's your alternative?
Quote:Or begging. Economic exchange is when the parties agree, implicitly or explicitly, depending on the perceived damage should one party default, to not exercise their threat to kill the other for taking their stuff only so long as the other give the agreed upon stuff in exchange.
That does not happen in a civilized society though. If I steal candy from a store, the owner isn't going to shoot me. In all likelihood he'll probably just let me go, but otherwise he may call the police and report a theft. What's the threat there? The use of police force? Is it not justified? I probably wouldn't face too serious of consequences for stealing a candy bar.
My alternative is the teachings of Jesus Christ as found in the Gospels.
And in the so-called "civilized society," the state controls such things by issuing - yes, you guessed it - threats against everyone to control their conduct, even unto death if deemed necessary. If Willy Wonka was in the Old West, he might well shoot thieves. And I don't know about justification - that depends on one's moral foundation. But that's precisely what's at issue in this thread: the moral foundation of social order.