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I wanted to apologize as a Christian....
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RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian....
(March 30, 2017 at 9:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 30, 2017 at 9:48 am)Drich Wrote: You are aware not everyone cherry picks right? That just because you or chirstians you know can't reconcile the whole of scripture does not mean others can't. It simply means your version of Christianity is not complete.

For instance, in Christianity/Biblical Christian no one can claim to be without sin yet we are still all saved. How? Because the book of Romans goes into great detail explaining that out righteousness is not dependent on where we sin or not. Our salvation is based on whether Christ did or not.

Paul tells us over and over we are all slaves to sin. This means we will never stop sinning. That means we can stop beating ourselves up over sin as it relates to salvation. As no one can master or conquer what controls/own him.

YES YOU DO, 

Drich, there is not ONE religion on the face of the planet as an umbrella label that does not have competing sub sects and individuals that cant agree as to how to follow their holy writings. EVERYONE thinks they are not cherry picking.

If you had something universal you could beat everyone to the patent office and sell your product in every nation. Religion is based on false perception, cherry picking and confirmation bias.

Humans like to claim to be good, like to claim to have the patent on morality. Most humans get sold their religions at birth. Ask a Sunni, they will claim they got the correct interpretation of the Koran and are not cherry picking. Ask a Shiite they will also claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Tibet Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Chinese Buddhist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Japanese Shinto Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. As a Obama voting Baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Trump voting baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask an Irish Catholic same thing, ask a Irish protestant, same thing.

7 billion humans and magically, lucky us we were lucky enough to run into you. Nope sorry, you are cherry picking.

The one guy who was not born into anything had no bias to confirm who simply follows what the bible says on page. That is the indicator of the non cherry picker. The one who does not default to commentary on a doctrinal issue, but one who can point to book chapter and verse.

There are a lot of non cherry pickers out there however many of them tend to be leglist/those who only follow point of law. Legalist tend to be elitist and would not spend much time with the weak or fallen, maybe that is why you don't seem to know of them. 

Can you point to anything I have cherry picked here in the last 8 years?

(March 30, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

How many WalMart workers have you stoned to death for working on the sabbath, Dripshit.  You see.  You are just a phony after all.

Quote:Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Ex 31:14

Retard I am not an OT Jew. Only the Jews had the charge to stone other Jews for missing the Sabbath. They did not or were not meant to judge the gentiles.

As A Christian we must reconcile all of God's word not just pick and choose Jewish or Christian only texts.
Mat 12 Jesus Himself tells us how/why it is ok to work on the Sabbath in the first 1/2 of the chapter, refuting the pharisaical interpretation that nothing must be done on the Sabbath. Rather Christ tells sets the example that our love for God Our love for each other can dictate what we do or do not do on the Sabbath.

On top of that Paul takes Jesus' point a step further in romans 14 In the first have he directly speaks about people who consider certain days more holy than other people do. in essence if we live/give God those days then who are any of us to judge which day a man decides to give God?

So in the beginning We have a command from moses to Keep the Sabbath holy. Jesus points out the pharisaical idea (your idea Minnie) of not working is the only at to keep the Sabbath is wrong... Not cherry picked, this is Jesus telling the Pharisees they are wrong on how they honor the Sabbath.

Romans 14 Paul takes the Jesus concept a step further and exclaims that any day all days can be given to God/Kept holy. It's all about the indivisual and where they are at.

Before you try and poop on anything know your query died at the end of your question when I pointed out I was not an OT Jew. The Law of moses ONLY pertained to the OT jew or someone looking to become one. I am neither. That said everything else is why Christians do not have the same demand to keep the Sabbath holy as the Jews did. (Christ pointed out the were keeping the day holy wrong, as he worked healing the sick)

(March 30, 2017 at 10:40 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote: When we look at scripture like Mark 10/divorce we must also look to see if that teacher/chirst said anything else on the subject. as it turns out this event seems to be outlined in mat 19 as well. The record is about the same but with the addition of marital unfaithfulness. or in some translations 'adultery.'

This does not take away anything Jesus said but adds to it. in that being unfaith to one marriage/vows is a legit reason to be divorced and remarry.


That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

Every religion quotes their holy writings and the characters in those holy writings. That is STILL circular reasoning and confirmation bias. You quoted your bible so what? Muslims quote the Koran, Jews quote the Torah and Talmud, and OT, Buddhists quote Buddha, and Hindus quote the Bhagavad Gita and Vedas. So what, get in line take a number.

I ask for specifics and you make the effort from way out in left field to what give me more generalities??? what's wrong with you snow flakes don't you understand that if I am asking for a specific another off the cuff generality is not going to work?

(March 30, 2017 at 10:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:
(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:

That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.
And, of course, you are the arbiter of what is "legit".

A Arbiter...
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I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Polaris - March 22, 2017 at 11:55 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 30, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 30, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 23, 2017 at 5:33 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 23, 2017 at 7:22 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 30, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 30, 2017 at 9:59 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 30, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by vorlon13 - March 30, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 30, 2017 at 2:47 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 30, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 8:28 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 9:27 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Drich - March 31, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - April 3, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 9:28 am
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 1:09 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 2:35 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian.... - by vorlon13 - March 31, 2017 at 11:53 am

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