RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
July 27, 2017 at 5:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 27, 2017 at 5:20 pm by Brian37.)
(July 27, 2017 at 4:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I sympathize with soldiers who are still thought of as cannon-fodder by the commanders.
What the fuck are we doing in Afghanistan?
Again, while that is a nice thought, it is still a utopia. For conflict to cease the entire world's population would have to all think the same way, but the problem is, just like with other life in an ecosystem all that diverse life is competing for resources. You can only reduce conflict through diplomacy, but you will never have 100% conflict free evolution.
(July 27, 2017 at 4:27 pm)Jesster Wrote:(July 27, 2017 at 4:24 pm)JackRussell Wrote: Try being in a firefight and shitting yourself.
If you're fighting with me I don't even consider your gender identity issues. I know I have fought alongside some terrible GAYS, so glad they were my comrades at the time.
It's appropriate that you brought up gay people. Similar arguments were made against them when they were first allowed to openly serve in the military. Nobody seems to care now because nothing bad came of it. The bigots needed a new target after that, and now they've found one.
I agree, and the same argument was made about blacks wen they desegregated the military.
But this new bullshit with trans is the same thing with gays. If the worry is assault why would that be any different between a man and a woman in the military?
If someone assaults you the issue isn't what their plumbing is or what they identify as, but the assault itself. It would be no different than if a 6ft tall guy punched a 5 foot 6 inch guy in the face. The issue is unwanted contact, not gender identity or plumbing.
A long time ago I went to a pro choice rally and after we were invited to a gay couple's apartment in DC for a party. The hosts were fantastic, but like any party, there is always one asshole who gets too drunk to know what they are doing. So this one guy took my attention as flirting and a licence to grab my ass. I shouted at him, and that got the attention of everyone in the room. The hosts, the gay couple told him to leave, which he did and they apologized to me. I told them there was nothing to apologize for because they didn't to it. And I am sure that one guy wont be invited back to their parties again. Now did I get angry because he was gay? No, I got angry because he touched me without my consent. Really no different than when a man does that to a woman.
But especially with military in combat situations, even with all men, the last thing on anyone's mind is going to be groping or raping someone. LGBT are no different, they just want to serve, not cause trouble. Just like most heterosexual men don't assault women even if there is a ratio that do. Most humans in general are going to do the right thing.