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No Trans In The Military Says Trump
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump
(August 8, 2017 at 10:16 pm)Javaman Wrote: Your initial claim was that recent legislation made it a criminal offence in Canada to use the wrong gender pronoun when addessing transgendered people. I pointed out that the claim was false.
Ontario's in Canada.

Quote:Rather than acknowledging the initial claim was wrong, you then shifted the goalposts to suggest there may be repercussions in civil legal jurisdictions, such as the Ontario Human Rights tribunal, if a private individual uses the wrong pronoun when addressing a trans person. Even when reading through the heavily biased sources you provide, it's so unlikely that a private individual would face any repercussions whatsoever for using the wrong pronoun, that it is frankly irrational to present them as cautionary examples.
You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. Here's something that is NOT an assumption-- rather than legislating rules about conduct and trying violators in a court of law with normal legal remedies, they have a tribunal which is allowed to arbitrate. Have you seen the exact rules by which they will arbitrate? No, I don't think you have, and neither have I. But I know that gym is out a lot of money, unless the whole story is a lie. Do you think it's a lie?


Quote:Your anti-trans bias is showing by identifying them as "not normal". Not to mention your prior descriptions of such things as bullshit.
A woman with a penis is not normal, because one of the defining features of females in mammals is the presence of a vagina. A penis in a woman's dressing room is not normal, because men have penises, and they are not normally allowed in women's dressing rooms (I'd love to go into one, for obvious reason). You are considering too much the special snowflake, and not the women to whom exposure of male genitalia in any other context would be considered sexual assault.

I'm fine with people thinking or feeling however they want, and I'll call a man "Brenda" and refer to him as "she" if he wants me to. However, to expect the many to conform to the emotional needs of the few is not only oppressive but it fails to meet the basic principle of the greater good.

I know that the lynch mobs of the day are set to pile up on people who express the ideas I'm expressing, and I'm fine with that. But I feel my opinion represents the voice of reason and reality, and I will continue to voice it.
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No Trans In The Military Says Trump - by Amarok - July 26, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump - by Aegon - July 26, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: No Trans In The Military Says Trump - by Amarok - July 26, 2017 at 9:55 am
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