(March 31, 2018 at 5:55 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: The thing with apologists is, they know the arguments too well to be arguing as poorly as they do. I'm sure there are a few honest apologists out there, but by and large, they are little more than sleazy attorneys.
For instance, Answers in Genesis keeps pushing the way-past-debunked "evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics" argument when they know damn well it's horseshit. They have to know. The first 9 out of ten google hits will lay it out plainly. The reason they keep using it is to take advantage of the general ignorance of their audience. If that isn't intellectual dishonesty, I don't know what is.
Yup, lying for Jesus. There are many more examples:
Prayer was taken out of school: It is allowed. Only school-led or coerced prayer is disallowed. They fucking know this!
America is a Christian Nation: The first 4 of the Ten Commandments are in direct conflict with the First Amendment. Only two of the commandments are mirrored in U.S. law (and the law of every other country). Don't steal and don't kill other people are a fucking no-brainer unless you are going for anarchy.
Excluding Christianity is equivalent to government endorsement of atheism: Right, as if no other religions exist. Excluding "under God" in the stupid Pledge of Aligience is NOT the same as including the statement, "under no God." Again, they know this.
They know that their own Bible has Jesus himself commanding that they pray in private - not openly, in public. They know he hated hypocrisy.
They know this country was founded by mostly Deists who were heavily influenced by the European Enlightenment. They know our constitution is an entirely secular document. They know the founders fully intended that religion be kept out of government.
They are shameless liars. Pure and simple. If Jesus was real, he would be disgusted with so many of his own followers because they are anathema to what he preached.
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