(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: I think I forgot to mention the topic of God is old to me and seems almost unrelated to morals.Then what is, in your opinion?
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Well like I postulated in the other post I think religions may have been created to form the foundation for morals in society.Occam's razor applies. For a social species not god is needed for morality to develop.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: The need for a "sky god" theory falls apart for me with religions like Buddhism. Many of them don't worship any Gods.So what? Religions simply arose as a way to explain the natural world. Where does lightning come from? Thor, obviously. And so forth. In fact, they were simply the first attempts at explanations for the natural world and how and why it operated.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Also I can't imagine man having the time to ponder such a question which brings no immediate result to the difficult state of life at the time.Your lack of imagination is not any sort of argument.It is the formation of a social species that allows for the time to consider such existential questions.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: So the question to why are there always these religions puzzles me. Though I'm sure some here are quite comfortable in ignoring eastern religions to stick to their sky daddy desire complexAgain, nobody cares that you are puzzled. That is a failure of your intellect. You don't get to foist that on everyone else.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Our morals are based on self, here and now.False.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: They vary between people. If I polled a question, any question like abortion there will be different opinions. Which one is right? How do we know it's right? Right for who? Each person's opinion is made on their preferences.Trivially true, just not in the way you mean.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Cave man's preferences are based on instincts, on self preservation. I don't see much about morals in a societal context, always of self.False.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: So although a person without religion can be a good person, a society needs to operate on one unified moral system which is built not for us, here and now but for future generations.False.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: Humans are very narcissistic.False.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: They believe they can control the weather, create a new universe and are all knowing.Maybe on planet sausage. Back here in reality, not so much.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: I read that if a person doesn't have a religion then the text or entity which they value the highest will be their religion or God.Flat out lie.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: This leads to a hostile and dogmatic defense of this God which mirrors theists defence of their doctrines. I find this so true which scares me cos I see what I was like wen I was an atheist/anti theist and I never want to be in that closed off mindset again.You pulled that out of your ass.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: I can get the 10 commandments and mirror many of them onto atheism.You got that backwards. Of the ten commandments 4/5 refer to a deity which cannot be mirrored in any way onto atheism and the remaining predate religions anyway.
(December 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm)Agnostico Wrote: This Gae Bolga guy for example looks only about 26-28yo, uses only agriculture to form theories while ignoring all the others factors. Yet refuses to enter a civilized discourse dismissing any argument as if he is this all knowing entity by which the laws of nature adhere to. To these types of snowflakes I say grow up. U are not unique. Ur thoughts are just that... Thoughts. Immature thoughts that will no doubt develop over timeWell, if you want to play that game, YOU self present as a spotty teenage basement dweller happily congratulating yourself for being clever enough to have worked everything out. You come across as a pretend atheist using that gambit to attempt to "embarass" atheists because you think it makes you look smart.
It doesn't. It makes you look like a dumb kid.