(January 15, 2019 at 6:15 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Using the word "wisdom", over and over - like a dim-witted schoolchild who hasn't learned what a thesaurus is - is not the same as teaching reason. What exactly is this "wisdom from above"? And what is this other kind of "wisdom" - "earthly, unspiritual[sic], demonic" - which is characterized by "bitter jealousy and selfish ambition", boasting and being "false to the truth"? Are we sure we're using the right word here, because all of that has very little to do with how we define wisdom, let alone rationality/reason. It's mostly vague drivel, on which believers can and do impose their own meaning.
The "wisdom from above" is teachings from the Holy Spirit to those who seek to have an understanding of God and His work through Jesus. Seeing how God is above all things and beyond our understanding the only place we can attain wisdom about Him is from Him. God knowing all things is the standard for wisdom, man knowing little about things can't be the standard unless you are satisfied to accept less, this is what earthly, unspiritual, demonic wisdom is and it is bitter jealousy and self ambitious, boasting and being false to the truth because you can't have the wisdom revealed by God unless you know God the Son. You see what the scriptures that were quoted are say is spiritual, not earthly, though the spiritual wisdom can and should be applied to earthly living. But then that want happen when it gets in the way of those who would rather live their lives for themselves than for God and other people, you know that "bitter jealousy and self ambition thing you seem to be tripping over. Reply if you like I don't see where you would have a reason i am just explaining that which you seem to be having a problem with, if you do reply I will read it but no guarantee I will respond. Limiting my time here for know.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
