Sharia law anyone?

[fredd bear]

When man makes a god, then makes rules that the men want and claim that they come from that god, and must be enforced by man, trolling should be expected.

Nothing gives a man the right to troll. Trolling is the tactic of provocation. It's pure madness and a provocation attempt.

Just like in school, the bully doesn't like you, So he starts to make fun of you to make you feel sad, depressed or angry.

If you don't like the thought of man making a God, then don't believe in the thought of man making a God.

But if I start to make fun of people who don't believe in God; then I'm provoking them and bulling them for their beliefs.

Serious criticism =/= Making fun
Making fun = trolling

I wasn't trolling, just putting forward a theory that might explain the oppression of women in Islamic states. If anybody's got a more plausible explanation I'd love to hear it.

I already mentioned in this comment that most of this list is false:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-58591-p...pid1892059

If your reply to my evidence is the comment you posted; then it is trolling based on a false list.

 I accept that Wyzas made his list in good faith. 

I also accept that your answers are technically correct, in terms of what is written in the Q'uran an Hadith.

However, those answers do not necessarily reflect reality. I'l mention just a few of things I know to be true having lived in the country concerned , which has its own religious police.(Malaysia) . 

In Malaysia it is a criminal offence:

To try to convert a Muslim to another faith.

To offer alcohol to a Muslim

For a Muslim to be found eating or drinking in public during daylight ours of Ramadan.

For a Muslim to deny his faith; 2 years in prison.

In divorce, in Malaysia, the children ALWAYS go to the father

Ah yes, when I was there, women wore neither hijab nor burqa.

I have only read  in newspaper of women who were raped being arrested for adultery. I have no problem believing that would happen in say Pakistan, or perhaps Afghanistan.

As for other extreme punishments. I accept that they are not written law. Also accept that they almost certainly happen.

However, I am also aware that some of the more extreme customs are tribal, predating Islam by centuries. Two examples ;female circumcision. A barbaric tribal custom, I think.  Also, customs of extreme modesty, such as the burqa and niqab. As far as I know, that's not quite what the Q'uran says;


In the Quran, God says, “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms…” (24:31)

I think perhaps the perceptions of Islam held by many non Muslims are based on the excessive conservatism of the Wahhabi in Saudi Arabia. Plus of course,  those ignorant and pathetic individuals who have been  taught in some perverted madrassa that is a  great thing to murder innocents, even though this is banned in the Q'uran

Islam is portrayed as a religion of “terror” and “killing”, yet this is just one of the most widely held misconceptions about Islam. Allah Almighty states unambiguously in the Quran (what means): "Nor take life -- which Allah has made sacred -- except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)." [Quran 17:33]

http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/113432/islam-does-not-tolerate-the-killing-of-innocents

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 Face veils:

The burqa and other types of face veils have been attested since pre-Islamic times, in particular among Pashtun and Arab women. Face veiling has not been regarded as a religious requirement by most Islamic scholars, past or present. However, some scholars, especially those belonging to the Salafi movement, view it as obligatory for women in the presence of non-related males. Women may wear the burqa for a number of reasons, including compulsion, as was the case in Afghanistan during Taliban rule. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burqa