Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 6, 2024, 2:42 pm
Atheist Forums › Community › Religion v
Being can come from non-being

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
Being can come from non-being
GrandizerII Offline
Senior Member
****
Religious Views: Not easy for me to summarize in a few words
Posts: 6607
Threads: 73
Joined: May 31, 2014
Reputation: 56
#31
RE: Being can come from non-being
November 30, 2019 at 10:03 am (This post was last modified: November 30, 2019 at 10:09 am by GrandizerII.)
(November 30, 2019 at 7:34 am)Otangelo Wrote:
(November 28, 2019 at 8:57 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Asserts who?

Science. 

https://medium.com/nakshatra/the-nature-...4033e752f4

the quantum field gently vibrates randomly. Sometimes this producesenough energy to form particles out of seemingly nothing!

That's not the part I was questioning. You said the quantum vacuum had to come into being since it could not be eternal. What is the source you're getting this from?
(November 30, 2019 at 8:10 am)ThinkingIsThinking Wrote: (1) Nothing is not anything.

(2) That which is not anything cannot be anything.

(3) That which cannot be anything cannot come from anything.

(4) non-being is not anything.

(5) Conclusion: non-being can't come from anything

Depends on what one means by "non-being". If you think of "non-being" in a conditional sense such as "no apples", you can get that from "apples". Eat every apple you have in your stock, and you're left with no apples.
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Religion v
Being can come from non-being

Messages In This Thread
Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - November 21, 2019 at 7:04 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 21, 2019 at 7:33 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 21, 2019 at 9:14 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by EgoDeath - November 21, 2019 at 9:25 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by AFTT47 - November 22, 2019 at 8:07 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 9:45 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Fireball - November 22, 2019 at 10:38 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Little lunch - November 21, 2019 at 9:34 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Fireball - November 21, 2019 at 10:39 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 21, 2019 at 11:06 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - November 22, 2019 at 9:57 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 22, 2019 at 2:08 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by EgoDeath - November 22, 2019 at 10:08 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2019 at 10:24 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - November 22, 2019 at 4:29 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Anomalocaris - November 23, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by LastPoet - November 22, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 22, 2019 at 4:53 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - November 22, 2019 at 6:07 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 23, 2019 at 7:29 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by John 6IX Breezy - November 23, 2019 at 11:32 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 23, 2019 at 11:45 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by John 6IX Breezy - November 23, 2019 at 12:35 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - November 23, 2019 at 3:44 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Otangelo - November 28, 2019 at 8:20 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Peebo-Thuhlu - November 28, 2019 at 8:38 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 28, 2019 at 8:57 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Otangelo - November 30, 2019 at 7:34 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Grandizer - November 30, 2019 at 10:03 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by ThinkingIsThinking - November 30, 2019 at 8:10 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by ThinkingIsThinking - December 1, 2019 at 9:09 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - December 2, 2019 at 11:52 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by ThinkingIsThinking - December 4, 2019 at 5:56 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - December 4, 2019 at 6:40 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2019 at 7:01 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by ThinkingIsThinking - December 6, 2019 at 6:21 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Drich - December 3, 2019 at 5:04 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - December 4, 2019 at 5:21 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Drich - December 5, 2019 at 2:23 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by LastPoet - December 5, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Alex K - December 5, 2019 at 6:39 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - December 4, 2019 at 10:07 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 4, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - December 4, 2019 at 10:17 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by EgoDeath - December 4, 2019 at 5:14 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - December 6, 2019 at 10:00 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by WinterHold - December 7, 2019 at 10:16 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - December 9, 2019 at 9:56 am
RE: Being can come from non-being - by The Architect Of Fate - December 9, 2019 at 7:25 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Fireball - December 9, 2019 at 10:51 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Otangelo - December 13, 2019 at 6:06 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by The Architect Of Fate - December 13, 2019 at 6:08 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Mister Agenda - January 3, 2020 at 1:23 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 2:26 pm
RE: Being can come from non-being - by Jehanne - January 15, 2020 at 10:40 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Suffer the little children to come unto me LinuxGal 2 645 August 7, 2023 at 9:48 pm
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Can you be a "Non religious muslim"? Woah0 31 1834 August 22, 2022 at 8:22 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Is this a disproof of Allah I've come up with? Atheism_is_True 5 638 July 12, 2022 at 5:55 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
  If god can't lie, does that mean he can't do everything? Foxaèr 184 11591 September 10, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Last Post: Dundee
  Persistent Non-Symbolic Experiences Ahriman 0 543 August 18, 2021 at 4:05 pm
Last Post: Ahriman
  Questions about the European renaissance and religion to non believers Quill01 6 675 January 31, 2021 at 7:16 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  God as a non-creator Fake Messiah 13 1720 January 21, 2020 at 8:36 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  Being cannot come from Non-being Otangelo 147 13914 January 7, 2020 at 7:08 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  What motivates theists to come here? robvalue 83 11038 August 20, 2016 at 2:48 pm
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  Non Sequitur Minimalist 8 1560 August 20, 2016 at 4:33 am
Last Post: Little lunch



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)