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[Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj.
(July 29, 2021 at 3:52 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 28, 2021 at 11:14 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Bukhari

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
""Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.
Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.
Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).
Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.
Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.
Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.
Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.
Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.
Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.
Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "
Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).
Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.
Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to be God's gift to him.
Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.

I only believe in the Quran.
Hadith books are obsolete. Please discuss the main topic or open another specific thread for this matter.

Who cares what you believe. 
Obsolete ? LOL. 
I have plenty of Quran verses I can post, (will do so today) that are just as bad, LOL

"Muḥammad ibn Ismā‘īl al-Bukhārī (Persianبخاری‎, ‎) (19 July 810 – 1 September 870), commonly referred to as Imam al-Bukhari or Imam Bukhari,[4] was a Persian[5][6][7] Islamic scholar who was born in Bukhara (early Khorasan and present day Uzbekistan). He compiled the hadith collection known as Sahih al-Bukhari, regarded by Sunni Muslims as the most authentic (sahihhadith collections. He also wrote other books such as Al-Adab al-Mufrad.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Bukhari#cite_note-8][/url]

The VAST majority of Muslims regard the hadith above as "the most authentic'. 
"According to a study in 2015, Islam has 1.8 billion adherents, making up about 24.1% of the world population. Most Muslims are either of two denominations: Sunni (87–90%, roughly 1.6 billion people) or Shia (10–13%, roughly 180–230 million people)"
Nice try. No ... you cannot just dismiss 1.6 BILLION Muslims. Either they are TRUE or they are not TRUE. Saying something is "obsolete" is irrelevant. 
Time you get off your ass and start addressing the HISTORY. 

I'll open a thread when and if I decide to ... I need no advice from you. 
Everything I have posted is relevant to the Quran and the origins of Islam. 
You are simply too uninformed about the subject to even begin to reply to anything. 

So far, you're batting zero. It's so hilarious that instead of addressing the FACTS, you try to get me banned, and spout (incorrectly) the rules.
You're nothing but a joke.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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[Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 23, 2021 at 10:13 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by onlinebiker - July 23, 2021 at 10:19 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by no one - July 23, 2021 at 10:21 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Fake Messiah - July 23, 2021 at 10:38 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by brewer - July 23, 2021 at 10:56 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Astreja - July 23, 2021 at 11:04 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 24, 2021 at 7:48 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Astreja - July 24, 2021 at 11:33 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 25, 2021 at 4:56 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Astreja - July 25, 2021 at 7:06 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 28, 2021 at 12:13 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Nay_Sayer - July 23, 2021 at 11:22 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 23, 2021 at 11:29 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 23, 2021 at 12:02 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by brewer - July 23, 2021 at 11:33 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by LostLocke - July 23, 2021 at 8:52 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by brewer - July 23, 2021 at 8:58 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by LadyForCamus - July 23, 2021 at 12:02 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by GUBU - July 23, 2021 at 3:26 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Brian37 - July 23, 2021 at 4:09 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Paleophyte - July 25, 2021 at 11:26 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 28, 2021 at 8:29 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 28, 2021 at 8:50 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2021 at 9:00 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 28, 2021 at 9:01 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 28, 2021 at 9:20 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 28, 2021 at 10:55 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Nay_Sayer - July 28, 2021 at 11:04 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 28, 2021 at 11:14 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 3:52 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 29, 2021 at 6:00 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 29, 2021 at 7:15 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 6:17 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 2:48 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Deesse23 - July 29, 2021 at 5:00 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 5:09 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Deesse23 - July 29, 2021 at 6:47 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Deesse23 - July 29, 2021 at 7:23 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 29, 2021 at 7:36 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 29, 2021 at 10:35 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 29, 2021 at 10:49 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 29, 2021 at 1:00 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 29, 2021 at 6:39 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 6:42 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 29, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 10:14 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 30, 2021 at 9:26 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Nay_Sayer - July 30, 2021 at 11:32 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 30, 2021 at 6:18 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2021 at 11:32 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 29, 2021 at 11:48 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 29, 2021 at 6:59 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 29, 2021 at 7:21 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 30, 2021 at 5:34 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Astreja - July 30, 2021 at 11:15 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Angrboda - July 30, 2021 at 12:55 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 30, 2021 at 5:57 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 30, 2021 at 6:42 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 30, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 30, 2021 at 7:21 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 30, 2021 at 4:21 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by R00tKiT - July 30, 2021 at 4:32 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - July 30, 2021 at 6:02 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 30, 2021 at 9:42 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 30, 2021 at 10:47 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Deesse23 - July 31, 2021 at 1:44 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - July 31, 2021 at 6:42 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2021 at 10:32 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 31, 2021 at 2:18 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Fake Messiah - July 31, 2021 at 6:25 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - July 31, 2021 at 7:18 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by WinterHold - July 31, 2021 at 10:54 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Brian37 - August 1, 2021 at 1:16 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by arewethereyet - August 1, 2021 at 6:57 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Fake Messiah - August 1, 2021 at 12:13 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - August 2, 2021 at 12:24 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - August 1, 2021 at 2:22 am
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by GUBU - August 2, 2021 at 2:21 pm
RE: [Quranic Reflection]: the Hajj. - by Bucky Ball - August 1, 2021 at 1:53 pm

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