(July 23, 2015 at 11:49 am)Tonus Wrote:(July 23, 2015 at 11:23 am)Little Rik Wrote: Not only no progress but in fact the situation is far worse.
One dictator replaced the previous one so all blood lost for achieving absolutely nothing.Quote:Exactly. Your way of viewing the world slows --or even halts-- progress.
If you really think that the Arab spring lead to progress please show this progress.
Little Rik Wrote:Since when putting the feet where you where before is advancement?Quote:Not drowning when you fall in water is advancement. It's your example, Rik. Not my fault if it supports my point instead of yours.
It sound like you had some mushroom trip so the confusion in your mind is taking over the reason.
Look again what i said in the previous post.
I said..............I suggest you to understand the meaning of progress Ton.
Progress is advancement.
Since when putting the feet where you where before is advancement?
......so did i ever said that not drowning is advancement?
Little Rik Wrote:So you got evidence that the spiritual realm doesn't exist.
Let us see this evidence Ton.Quote:My evidence is you, and every other person who claims it exists and so far has not produced a shred of evidence for it. Not just that, but you all have different descriptions of it and different explanations for how it works, and you all admit that no one can detect this realm except through their own imaginations.
YOU are the evidence. There is no spirit realm until you and the rest of the claimants prove otherwise. Now go ahead and produce a spirit realm and you won't have to ask questions from a position of weakness anymore.
You got very big expectation Ton.
Suppose you are in love with someone.
Now i pop up and i ask you to pass to me that beautiful feeling that you got within.
Can you do that?
Spiritual love follow similar lines.
You just can't pass this love to other.
It belong to you and you alone.
If you really want to experience the same feeling you got to do the hard work that lead you there.
As simple or better say as hard as that.
Little Rik Wrote:Time can play funny things Ton.Quote:So can cognitive dissonance.
Yes it can.
Luckily that is not my problem.
Little Rik Wrote:This can only means that they came up with a solution and solution means eradication in that sense.
You can play with the words as much as you can.Quote:I love that you keep doing the same thing-- you play word games with the "ages ago" part and then do the opposite with the "got rid of" part, and then accuse me of playing word games. You can't have it both ways. But sure, repeat your hypocritical word game AGAIN in your next reply. I'm sure that'll change everything.
Let us have an independent party and see who is correct and who talk bullshit.
Little Rik Wrote:Ton, you never travel in trouble places.
You wouldn't know that the official statistics mean absolutely nothing.Quote:What you mean is that the official statistics don't mean anything unless they support your claims, in which case you are willing to trust them. You redefine and repurpose everything in order to maintain your delusion. That may work for you, but the rest of us can see the deception crystal-clear.
If you don't believe me just go in a Lesotho or in an Indian village and ask the people there if anyone from the statistic board ever came to them and ask them how many people die of malaria, tubercolosis and any other disease.
Guess what the answer will be?
NO.
Little Rik Wrote:The reason why medical science never get there is because someone play with us.
But this is something that you will learn later on.Quote:Heh. So that's your final response to that? "You'll see?" Pro tip: that's what other theists say, too. See above regarding the evidence for the claim that there is no spirit realm.
You just remind me something Ton.
Some dogs can sniff drugs inside luggage at the airport.
We humans can not do that.
We can do a lot of other things and yet we can not do other things.
Is not all about training.
It is also about what our nature can do.
So where this reasoning take us to?
To you probably takes you nowhere.
To me it takes me somewhere.
It tell me that we should never deny what we can not see or understand just
because we can't get there with our understanding.
Everything is open for the unexpected.
So considering that this physical universe can not bring peace of mind and unlimited happiness
there got to be a different way to get there.
Not only that but it seems that someone is playing with us until we wake up and understand that
unlimited happiness and peace of mind can not be found here in this physical world.
Little Rik Wrote:Hard to admit it Ton, doesn't it Ton!Quote:This makes no sense. Or at least, less sense than most of your post.
Night.
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