RE: My own moral + ontological argument.
November 18, 2011 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2011 at 4:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
You know whats always fun in these discussions are the amount of implied assumptions.
"An eternal basis" is shorthand for god, for example. The trouble here is that I could grant you "an eternal basis" of a "real" objective morality, in the hypothetical. But what exactly does that have to do with god? Nothing, nada. Even in the hypothetical you still make a leap of faith. There are two bad arguments going on at once here. Not only are we equivocating "eternal basis" and god, we're also implying a "first cause". You're arguing both sides of the fence simultaneously. Either "objective morality", "real morality"(whatever you want to call it honestly) exists from eternity, or it was created at a finite time. Why not dispense with reason entirely? It seems so tedious to try and rationalize faith.
"An eternal basis" is shorthand for god, for example. The trouble here is that I could grant you "an eternal basis" of a "real" objective morality, in the hypothetical. But what exactly does that have to do with god? Nothing, nada. Even in the hypothetical you still make a leap of faith. There are two bad arguments going on at once here. Not only are we equivocating "eternal basis" and god, we're also implying a "first cause". You're arguing both sides of the fence simultaneously. Either "objective morality", "real morality"(whatever you want to call it honestly) exists from eternity, or it was created at a finite time. Why not dispense with reason entirely? It seems so tedious to try and rationalize faith.
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