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Need help for a Sunday School class
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RE: Need help for a Sunday School class
(April 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm)mediamogul Wrote: 1) Why is it that god always "selects" the craziest and least reliable people to be "prophets"?

2) Why is it that a Christian can so easily see the falsehood of EVERY other religion but their own when they all demand belief in precisely the same way and on precisely the same grounds?

3) Why is it that christians can be so rational and demand evidence and reason in so many other areas but have this compartmentalized blind spot for religion which they feel perfectly acceptable believing on faith in spite of the mountain of evidence against every one of it's claims?

4)Why is it that christians trust science when it makes their sattelites function, makes their cell phones work and cures their diseases but when the EXACT same scientific claims that these devices and methods are based on contradict their religious claims they suddenly are completely opposed to scientific methods?

5) Why is it that every conversation with a theist includes the same three tired "arguments" a) What if you're wrong? b) Pol Pot, Stalin, and Hitler were atheists so doesn't atheism make you evil? c) So you believe the universe and life just magically appeared?

6) What other system of thought in the world would you allow someone to believe merely on the basis of their "faith" in it? Marxism? Fascism? Nazism? Anarchism?

That's it for now. I've got a million but I doubt they are going towards valid intellectual and scientific pursuits. You appear to have the fundamentalist mindset of no matter what you are not going to give up your beliefs and this is more an excercise in attempting to create apologetics.

Thank you for the reply mediamogul. Can I ask for some clarifications?

1. To which prophets are you referring? biblical or contemporary?

2. Jesus actually condemned the religious leaders of the day for this exact thing (trying to remove the splinter from your neighbor's eye while ignoring the plank in your own). "I would dispute your assertion of precisely the same way and on precisely the same grounds."

I would make the case that many of the tenants of Christianity are unique, though in your eyes perhaps equally as wrong. That would be a discussion for another time as I didn't come here to proselytize.

3. is a legitimate question. I'll bring it up to the group.

4. I don't guess I know the Christians you know, but I'll give this one some thought.

5. You will not hear any of these comments from me.

6. I would absolutely defend your right to believe as you wish. I would question how adequately any of these world views would serve you in the long run.

To be fair, your questions also seem to indicate a fundamentalist mindset of no matter what you are not going to give up your beliefs.

I did state from the beginning that my intention was to use these questions to create apologetics.

Thanks,
Adam C

(April 1, 2012 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Sounds like my kind of guy, now maybe we can lay our "equipment" out to see who's is bigger?

I must warn you, I'm hung like a bull squirrel.

Just a side note, did you know the phrase "hung like mule" has its origins in the bible? Ezekiel 23:20. Not many Sunday sermons on that one though.
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Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 9:09 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by frankiej - April 1, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Nine - April 1, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by frankiej - April 1, 2012 at 9:19 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Aegrus - April 1, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Zen Badger - April 1, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 9:40 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Nine - April 1, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Erinome - April 1, 2012 at 10:13 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by KichigaiNeko - April 1, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by KichigaiNeko - April 1, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Minimalist - April 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Drich - April 1, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Tobie - April 1, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Drich - April 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Tobie - April 1, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Drich - April 1, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by mediamogul - April 1, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by mediamogul - April 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by adam c - April 1, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Need help for a Sunday School class - by fuckass365 - April 1, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Minimalist - April 1, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Cyberman - April 1, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Voltair - April 3, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Need help for a Sunday School class - by Cyberman - April 3, 2012 at 6:14 pm

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