RE: Theory number 3.
October 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2012 at 4:16 pm by Darkstar.)
(October 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: This is news to me. Evolution is a theory, not a certain knowledge.
I understand everything you said above until this. Do we need to discuss the 'theory' of gravity again?
(October 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:Quote:We also know that the non-conscious entities evolved into conscious ones (unless you are a creationist).
I don't have to be a creationist. To be a creationist, it means I claim to believe evolution didn't happen. I don't have to be evolutionist, because it doesn't seem to be conclusive to me. I don't even have to believe evolution can possibly explain life, let alone, that it does, to not be a creationist.
And the truth right now, my agnosticism is a total state of confusion. I don't know that I don't know type confusion.
It's not the type that asserts I am unconvinced by evidence that there is no higher power neither is it the type that claims I cannot know or that I do not know deep inside.
I am "confused" .
By creationist, I meant that all beings were created in their current states, and thus consciousness is completely inseperable from that which has it. From an evolutionary standpoint, it seems logical to conclude that consciousness was evolved, but we do not know how this happened or when. I am not sure if we even fully understand what is 'conscious'. My best guess would be that a conscious being has a brain, and a non-conscious one does not. I, however, do not know for certain. So in that sense, I too am agnostic in regards to the origin of consciousness.
(October 28, 2012 at 3:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: We put faith in authorities too much I don't have to believe in evolution to justify my lack of belief in God or a Creator. I can be agnostic, and think there is strong arguments for a Creator, just that I don't feel confidence in arguments anymore.
I think the best word to describe by position is "confused".
You don't need to deny evolution to believe in a god. Some people believe that god created the universe knowing that life would arise and evolve in the way it did. Some are deists, and others might think that god interferes in life on earth, just not as a creator beyond the big bang. One could theorize that while god did not create the earth, or life on it, he guided natural processes in a way that would allow for such things to occur. Now, I do not believe that this claim can be tested, so I don't think it would be reasonable to assume that it is true, however, theists who already assume there is a gos might be able to speculate this as an explanation to what we have observed.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.