RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
January 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2013 at 7:28 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
(January 10, 2013 at 7:19 pm)jonb Wrote: Would you say Britain is a gun free zone?
Nope. Shootings still occur there. And so do murders. In fact, as CapnAwesome has pointed out REPEATEDLY [and I dunno why this has to keep being reiterated among fellow freethinkers who claim to support the idea of evidence and rationality but ignore hard numbers in this sole single instance], violent deaths in Britain actually went UP after guns were banned. They didn't have too many to begin with but after the ban, the murder rate rose. It did not drop. The drop only happened several years later and is consistent with the lowering murder rate here in the US as well despite no real action being taken against guns in the US in correlation, instead hinting at the rising levels of irreligion and education being the primary contributors.
(January 10, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Jon, find me something that hasn't been "mis-used by the public"......
@Creed, we have every reason to assume that the amount of robberies ( or crimes et all) have nothing to do with the number of people that own firearms - that is exactly whats so damning about gun control in the first place. Remove the guns and it doesn't seem to alter the stats, leave them and it doesn't seem to alter the stats. Something else is at play.
Well I'm talking more in the realms of idealism; where EVERYONE is fire-armed and it's common knowledge that everyone is fire-armed, not so much in a realistically-expected way.