Is castrating young boys ethical?

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Of course it`s unethical!

That's new... of course something is unethical? I've heard positive ethicality behind rape, murder, genocide, xenocide, torture, and Nickleback.

It might just be that morality is subjective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClXAaGoT5eE

Is there even a question to this?

Obviously, yes.

It doesnt matter "how good" the musical performace would be.
One would infringe the individuals right to selfdetermination and health.

Well... it might matter to say, me. I mean... if I had had a beautiful 'boys, you want this' voice when I was on the verge of puberty, and a talent for singing to go with it: I would have been rather pleased with castration.

We are talking castration as in removal of balls, right? Because that would have been wonderful~



I'd give up my ability to orgasm (let alone reproduce) to have never been infected with testosterone in the first place ^_^

Questions which a child at the age of 13 couldnt answere and certainly not be made for a child.

I could have answered at 13 with certainty, but by then it was my decision. I say: don't let them make a decision about their sex life's future until they have started puberty.

My gods but I hated puberty. Before then I was just an effeminate guy, suddenly you throw in intense sexual desire to be penetrated vaginally... so very frustrating

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meh
I believe that Beiber video only bolsters my point.

Castration not necessary.
His voice isn't that high. That song just happens to be of a higher key.

Rather, I believe you missed the point, which was: high-pitched male singing is often well-received.

High-pitched male falsetto opera? Whole other level

Castration isn't necessary, but it puts the 'skill floor' immensely lower.

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Haven't there been sex change operations though done to children? Why are they able to choose that but not this?

If so, they are also unethical.

Children can't consent to such procedures.

Because teenagers are children, right?

Children can't consent to anything, they will follow the commands of their parents, PERIOD! Did you hear me, Pauline!? You're going to that wedding whether you like it or not!

Nope, they don't even get to consent to eating bananas, they will eat it, and if they don't: they will be punished. Gods, this is going in entirely too sexual a direction

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There will always be variation between people, but children can't consent to just procedures because they can't cognitively understand what the consequences will be (as in not understanding the gravity of them). Here's Piaget's stages of cognitive development, which are well-worth looking over if you haven't heard it 10,000 times. Haha

So really, we shouldn't be able to consent to anything until we're about 25ish. Maybe 28, if our brains decide to be a little slow.

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Castrating young boys ethical? Depends on their race. Fuhrer mode off///

Damn right!

Castrate ALL the Jewz!

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As a parent, there's no way I'd let my sons be castrated, even if they had the most angelic of voices. Think of what they would be giving up at too early of an age to appreciate what they are losing, children of their own, a traditional intimate relationship... These are not things that a 12 or 14 year old should be thought capable of making permanent, life-altering decisions about. That being said both my boys were circumcised (by a mohel, nonetheless), which some would equate to castration, the anti-circumcision crowd can be quite militant.

I was circumcised when I was 11, and didn't have the slightest idea what they wanted to do to me. I pretty much just flatly trusted they weren't going to kill me or do something horrible to me. And you know? I didn't mind it at all. I didn't have squat for a sheaf (like a tiny wrinkle of skin barely moveable beneath the head), so visually I just noticed a weird-ass burn and that a little patch of skin I thought of as 'a bridge' had been removed.

Wasn't until a year later that I found out that the very same skin that was burnt off of me would have been used in my vagina if I got one.

Wasn't until a year after that I regretted simply letting my parents do that to me, and it's true: I will have lost a small amount of sensitivity for absolutely no bloody reason.

Really... one shouldn't be circumcised unless it was *their* choice, and *they* brought it up, and *the person it was to be done to was the one who first vouched for it*.

Depressed me like no other when my parents wouldn't so much as let me start hormone therapy, it was miserable to be going through male puberty. For a year or two after circumcision, spent a good amount of time in my imagination just wondering what might have been if I were blessed with an accidental castration

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How can this castration for the sake of music be ethical? I do not give a fuck if a thirteen year old consents to it, they're not an adult yet

What's so special about an adult, anyway? Do they suddenly get this mystical power to decide their fate upon physical growth or an arbitrary age-line?

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hell no. treating human like fucking stereo systems is not moral!
"dammit boy sing better!"
"i`m trying father"
"then we are gonna have to cut some things out"
yeah real moral

Only... it is moral. Arguing something is not moral is kinda hard to do unless you're in a group where 100% of the members agree on what is and is not moral.

But then, since it's moral to 95% of the group to ignore, oppress, or simply kill the remaining 5%... what does it matter?